Yes, but when the man was a homosexual he never was claiming to be a Christian. But there are many claiming to be Christian and continue to get divorced...and remarried. Jesus never said a thing about homosexuality, but plenty about divorce.
In Jesus days in Israel there is no mention of this rampant perversion having taken hold of the culture. Be sure that the society had not yet sunk to this level of decay.
It is a sign of decay ,a decadent cultures with little time left to repent. Of course Jesus spoke against the sins of divorce and adultry ,rightly so. He spent much more of His time speaking out against the sin of religiousness.
Jesus said; 'not one jot or tittle of the law is done away with ' and you find a way to elevate this abomination before God to a place of respect & honor in comparing it with divorce. Sin leads to death,lying,adultry,fornication,murder stealing,divorce and homosexuality.
All of these have the blessing of this evil world system except for murder. (Exception ;in the case of Vince Foster & BillaryHillary Clinton it is O.K.) Remember,never forget the example of Sodom & Gomorrah which God gave to us as a reminder to all who would rebel against His divine order of Creation. Do you not see how this rebellion against God is the sign of a reprobate mind. God gives them over to this perversion and how rampant and acceptable it is today. THIS HAS BEEN A SIGN THRUOUT HISTORY OF GOD'S IMPENDING JUDGMENT AND WRATH. Do you not see or understand this ?
If you read Romans chapter 1,you will understand more on this killer of civilizations perversion.
Do you think Jesus did away with this Jim ? He did not speak out against having sex with animals either.
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
14 If a man marries a woman and her mother, it is wickedness. They shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there may be no wickedness among you. 15 If a man mates with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. 16 If a woman approaches any animal and mates with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood is upon them. Leviticus 20
It's interesting that as man get further away from God he/she turns to these abominations. After the homosexual perversion we now see an increase in mankind having sex with animals. We have reached the end and gloobal/religious acceptance of homosexuality is a sure sign that the future is dark and horiffic and not gay. Our only hope is repent from flesh driven lust.
Marcel, Jim kinda has a point. You cannot emphasize one sin over the rest. Sin is sin, and Jesus says you break one you broke em all. That is why He had to be the Perfect Sacrifice.
Homosexuality is part of the iniquity abounding of the last days. I 'get' why it is upsetting, but at the same time, using the OT to judge in a world that has accepted evolution as proven science is like saying Santa will get mad if we do not celebrate Christmas, in their eyes.
If evolution is true, then man is just an animal.
If man is an animal, then morals are arbitrary controls to our base nature. That being so, homosexuality is just another natural instinct to the human animal. See how that flows?
Using the Law in that context is like shooting pool with a rope. The problem is evolution teaching bearing it's logical fruit. Isn't it funny we see this at a time when an entire generation has reached maturity believing it?
Not to silence you. You know I like to help, not hurt, but as far as social issues, there's far more we can do than worry about gays. They are 10 percent of the population. The other 90 percent need Christ. Let's work on them instead. Gays will do what gays will do. God is not surprised by it, and can handle it when the time comes.
Also, it's the logical result of the salt losing it's savour. Christians themselves could care less about truth, else they would be seeking it, instead of building empires and making excuses for Bush. So you wanna blame someone, blame the church. Had we been doing our jobs the way Jesus said, we'd be winning these souls instead of kicking bible verses into the wind at them.
We've shows the world God is a god of war, greed, self, and hatred. Is it any wonder they want nothing to do with Him? What did we expect?
PS: The fact we have to still defend the KJV to our own is proof of what I said. If we cared about truth, the new perversion bibles could not be sold. As it stands, it's tough to find a KJV in many Christian bookstores. I had to buy mine from a SECULAR bookstore.
We're spending 90 percent of our time on ten percent of the population. Remember, Sodom did not repent, even when angels were sent. Will we do better now? Their minds are already too far gone. God gives them over for that reason.
I just listened to bill weise's 23 minutes in hell and I kow we must warn the wicked even if they believe all the lies of hell.
Swallowing Satan's lie's from evolution to sevxual perversion they cannot say 'no one warned me' . No one told me I was believing a lie. We must tell them,warn them, even if they reject it. The church has failed to warn the wicked and no longer warn of hell,eternal damnation.
1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
The devil does this stuff cuz he knows it gets us going.
He knows full well his destiny, and he will take as many deceived men as possible with him. In the meantime, he likes to distract us with things we can't fix, so we neglect the things we can.
We can't fix gays. Sorry, can't be done. Nothing we can say that has not been said. Nor can we fix the nation as whole. It's too far gone. We are maggots feeding on the corpse at best.
But we CAN fix ourselves. We CAN arrest our decline as believers. 2 Chron 7:14 tells how.
We CAN seek truth, and return to our first love. We CAN repent. These thing we can fix whenever we want to. Instead we expect the world to be holy and we do not even know what it means. If we did, we would not emphasize works. That is proof we do not understand holiness, which is a Divine quality, only possible thru Christ.
We expect people w/o Christ to be holy just by following the Law. It didn't work at Sinai, where they made an idol at the foot of God's mountain. It won't work now.
So the devil rub homosexuality in our face, knowing full well it'll get us going and distracted. Meantime, the perfectly straight person next to you needs to hear the Good News, and he can't, cuz we're stoning gays instead of giving him the Good News.
Do you see the trick, M? That's what he does. Be wise to it. Ten percent vs ninety. No brainer.
Getting back to the testimony of this ex -gay young man. It is something that the devil hates to see get out in the open.He just wishes this fellow freed from this bondage would have gone quietly ,silently. I am happy to have posted this message,this testimony of freedom from sin thru the blood of Jesus Christ. And they overcame him thru the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony and they loved notr their lives unto the end. This ex-homosexual has a great testimony anf the devil hates it !
Just saying when we let the devil distract us over an issue like this, he gets two for one. He gets the gays, and the ones we neglect cuz we're obsessing over gays.
It's a classic war tactic(and it IS a war...Eph 6). Send out a force to tie up and distract the defenders, while the actual attack takes place elsewhere.
He'll keep us spinning our wheels over gays, and the ones who MAY actually hear the gospel are not approached. They die w/o a saviour, and the gays are still gay. He wins twice.
Your ministry is to proclaim the coming judgment. You do it well. That's what the devil really hates.
Yes, but when the man was a homosexual he never was claiming to be a Christian. But there are many claiming to be Christian and continue to get divorced...and remarried. Jesus never said a thing about homosexuality, but plenty about divorce.
ReplyDeleteSin leads to death, not just homosexuality.
Jim
Your point is to twist or ignore the law of God ?
ReplyDeleteIn Jesus days in Israel there is no mention of this rampant perversion having taken hold of the culture.
Be sure that the society had not yet sunk to this level of decay.
It is a sign of decay ,a decadent cultures with little time left to repent.
Of course Jesus spoke against the sins of divorce and adultry ,rightly so.
He spent much more of His time speaking out against the sin of religiousness.
Jesus said; 'not one jot or tittle of the law is done away with ' and you find a way to elevate this abomination before God to a place of respect & honor in comparing it with divorce.
Sin leads to death,lying,adultry,fornication,murder
stealing,divorce and homosexuality.
All of these have the blessing of this evil world system except for murder.
(Exception ;in the case of Vince Foster & BillaryHillary Clinton it is O.K.)
Remember,never forget the example of Sodom & Gomorrah which God gave to us as a reminder to all who would rebel against His divine order of Creation.
Do you not see how this rebellion against God is the sign of a reprobate mind.
God gives them over to this perversion and how rampant and acceptable it is today.
THIS HAS BEEN A SIGN THRUOUT HISTORY OF GOD'S IMPENDING JUDGMENT AND WRATH.
Do you not see or understand this ?
If you read Romans chapter 1,you will understand more on this killer of civilizations perversion.
Do you think Jesus did away with this Jim ?
ReplyDeleteHe did not speak out against having sex with animals either.
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
14 If a man marries a woman and her mother, it is wickedness. They shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there may be no wickedness among you. 15 If a man mates with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. 16 If a woman approaches any animal and mates with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood is upon them.
Leviticus 20
It's interesting that as man get further away from God he/she turns to these abominations.
After the homosexual perversion we now see an increase in mankind having sex with animals.
We have reached the end and gloobal/religious acceptance of homosexuality is a sure sign that the future is dark and horiffic and not gay.
Our only hope is repent from flesh driven lust.
Marcel, Jim kinda has a point. You cannot emphasize one sin over the rest. Sin is sin, and Jesus says you break one you broke em all. That is why He had to be the Perfect Sacrifice.
ReplyDeleteHomosexuality is part of the iniquity abounding of the last days. I 'get' why it is upsetting, but at the same time, using the OT to judge in a world that has accepted evolution as proven science is like saying Santa will get mad if we do not celebrate Christmas, in their eyes.
If evolution is true, then man is just an animal.
If man is an animal, then morals are arbitrary controls to our base nature. That being so, homosexuality is just another natural instinct to the human animal. See how that flows?
Using the Law in that context is like shooting pool with a rope. The problem is evolution teaching bearing it's logical fruit. Isn't it funny we see this at a time when an entire generation has reached maturity believing it?
Not to silence you. You know I like to help, not hurt, but as far as social issues, there's far more we can do than worry about gays. They are 10 percent of the population. The other 90 percent need Christ. Let's work on them instead. Gays will do what gays will do. God is not surprised by it, and can handle it when the time comes.
Also, it's the logical result of the salt losing it's savour. Christians themselves could care less about truth, else they would be seeking it, instead of building empires and making excuses for Bush. So you wanna blame someone, blame the church. Had we been doing our jobs the way Jesus said, we'd be winning these souls instead of kicking bible verses into the wind at them.
We've shows the world God is a god of war, greed, self, and hatred. Is it any wonder they want nothing to do with Him? What did we expect?
***AF***
PS: The fact we have to still defend the KJV to our own is proof of what I said. If we cared about truth, the new perversion bibles could not be sold. As it stands, it's tough to find a KJV in many Christian bookstores. I had to buy mine from a SECULAR bookstore.
ReplyDeleteWe're spending 90 percent of our time on ten percent of the population. Remember, Sodom did not repent, even when angels were sent. Will we do better now? Their minds are already too far gone. God gives them over for that reason.
**AF***
I just listened to bill weise's 23 minutes in hell and I kow we must warn the wicked even if they believe all the lies of hell.
ReplyDeleteSwallowing Satan's lie's from evolution to sevxual perversion they cannot say 'no one warned me' .
No one told me I was believing a lie.
We must tell them,warn them, even if they reject it.
The church has failed to warn the wicked and no longer warn of hell,eternal damnation.
1 John 5:4
ReplyDeleteFor whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
The devil does this stuff cuz he knows it gets us going.
He knows full well his destiny, and he will take as many deceived men as possible with him. In the meantime, he likes to distract us with things we can't fix, so we neglect the things we can.
We can't fix gays. Sorry, can't be done. Nothing we can say that has not been said. Nor can we fix the nation as whole. It's too far gone. We are maggots feeding on the corpse at best.
But we CAN fix ourselves. We CAN arrest our decline as believers. 2 Chron 7:14 tells how.
We CAN seek truth, and return to our first love. We CAN repent. These thing we can fix whenever we want to. Instead we expect the world to be holy and we do not even know what it means. If we did, we would not emphasize works. That is proof we do not understand holiness, which is a Divine quality, only possible thru Christ.
We expect people w/o Christ to be holy just by following the Law. It didn't work at Sinai, where they made an idol at the foot of God's mountain. It won't work now.
So the devil rub homosexuality in our face, knowing full well it'll get us going and distracted. Meantime, the perfectly straight person next to you needs to hear the Good News, and he can't, cuz we're stoning gays instead of giving him the Good News.
Do you see the trick, M? That's what he does. Be wise to it. Ten percent vs ninety. No brainer.
***AF***
Getting back to the testimony of this ex -gay young man.
ReplyDeleteIt is something that the devil hates to see get out in the open.He just wishes this fellow freed from this bondage would have gone quietly ,silently.
I am happy to have posted this message,this testimony of freedom from sin thru the blood of Jesus Christ.
And they overcame him thru the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony and they loved notr their lives unto the end.
This ex-homosexual has a great testimony anf the devil hates it !
Most true. Notsaying the testimony has no merit.
ReplyDeleteJust saying when we let the devil distract us over an issue like this, he gets two for one. He gets the gays, and the ones we neglect cuz we're obsessing over gays.
It's a classic war tactic(and it IS a war...Eph 6). Send out a force to tie up and distract the defenders, while the actual attack takes place elsewhere.
He'll keep us spinning our wheels over gays, and the ones who MAY actually hear the gospel are not approached. They die w/o a saviour, and the gays are still gay. He wins twice.
Your ministry is to proclaim the coming judgment. You do it well. That's what the devil really hates.
***AF***
check it out !
ReplyDeleteHave you ever visite a gay pride parade ?
http://www.newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave75.htm
marcel
For what reason?
ReplyDeleteEver gone to a boat show?
*AF*