Monday, July 09, 2007

Wars and Rumors of War


Israel's enemies ,Syria,Iran are ready and it seems they are planning to ignite a fire no only in Lebanon.
Russia ,China ,Egypt and the Islamic world are more than spectators in this unfolding cosmic showdown.
The Golan ,Gaza ,S.Lebanon front are already on a slow boil waiting for the command to finish what the Arab/Islamic world have been trying to do for over half a century now.
The Bush disaster in Iraq has only emboldened the Shiite's and encouraged them.
ISRAEL, Your grave error was to look west for help and peace instead of looking up.
There will be no peace without Messiah Jesus ,the Prince of Peace.
You trusted in a powerful and devious politician instead and recieve the error of your ways.
You trusted in lies and rejected all the warnings,seduced and blinded by earthly power.
Your so called ally and helper has not brought peace but engraved the road map to war into Israel.
All your loyalty and effort for peace by way of the Road Map have been fruitless and empty.
An agreement with death and hell which God Himself will anull.


14Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.

15Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

16Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

17Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

18And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

19From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

20For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.

21For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.

22Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.

Isaiah 28


Make no mistake about it Israel, you are the bull's eye target and the Road Map to peace has only helped your enemies and weakened you.
A mistake you will never make again.

13 comments:

  1. You are so right.

    That great everlasting covenant, that precious corner stone, that sure foundation with Israel was fulfilled at the cross, yet even to this day, sadly the Jews reject it, choosing to believe the Talmud over & above the scriptures. And you, sadly don't believe the scriptures either, choosing to overlook fulfilled prophecy and history in favor of tall tales and fables and lead more men into the pit for fleshly glory.

    Truly, the kingdom was removed from them and given to a nation that would bring forth fruits. The Church of Jesus Christ is the the spiritual inheritors of all that could have been Israel's, but she would not.

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  2. ""For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.""


    You sound quite highminded and boastful.
    Romans 11 has much to say about your kind.
    What fleshly arrogance.
    The same pride which brought down Lucifer infects your soul.
    It's no wonder you could not leave your shameful name.

    If not already ,you are in danger of being CUT OFF.

    """Be not highminded, but fear:

    21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

    22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.""""


    11
    I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    12Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

    13For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

    14If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

    15For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

    16For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

    17And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

    18
    Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

    19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

    20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

    21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

    22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

    23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

    24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

    25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

    29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

    marcel

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  3. You believe Israel to mean only ethnic Israel, or those who are claiming to be Jewish. I don't. I believe The Israel of God" are ALL those, whether Jew or Gentile that are His on the basis of their faith in Jesus and in His blood. That is what the Bible says. That is what Jesus tried to say thoughout the Gospels. You fail to see that.

    It is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise--those of the faith of Abraham.
    Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise (what promise? . . . the promises given to Abraham) in Christ Jesus through the gospel."
    Don't you get it yet? Your racism and hate towards the non-Jew based on false teaching is apparent.

    Emmett

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  4. The way I read it, esp in Jer 50/51, it is ISRAEL that comes out victorious, NOT the USA.

    Not to mention, if Israel was not supposed to be there, it would not be. Are we to believe a tiny nation of unsaved Jews is more powerful than God Himself? God needs Islam and the nations of the world to do His work for Him? He could not flick them away like a bug?

    Jer 50:7 All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.

    This verse is telling us(referring to the Jewish people) that their adversaries think they offend not because they sineed against the Lord(rejected Christ). Exactly what the first poster said.

    Jer 50: 18 Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land, as I have punished the king of Assyria.

    19 And I will bring Israel again to his habitation, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied upon mount Ephraim and Gilead.

    God says later He will punish Babylon/USA, and bring Israel to his habitation. Just so we are sure of where that is, God names the places by name.

    I do not see any American cities in the list, do you?

    It is precisely BECAUSE so many believe this, and because Bush will attempt to divide the Land, that God will destroy us. It has to be linked to Israel's oppression, so replacement theologists such as he will be silenced.

    As we see, little has changed, despite Katrina and other mild judgments God has sent because of our pressure on Israel. They basically are flipping God off on the issue. That cannot turn out well for us.

    Jer 51:19The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.

    20Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

    21And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;

    22With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;

    23I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; and with thee will I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers.

    24And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.

    The PORTION OF JACOB. Jacob always refers to blood Jews. God cannot be plainer that He is still on their side.

    ***AF***

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  5. ***It is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise--those of the faith of Abraham.
    Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise (what promise? . . . the promises given to Abraham) in Christ Jesus through the gospel."


    In order to be joint heirs, they have to inherit something. What?

    You mention promises to Abraham. What was promised?

    Genesis 15:18
    In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

    So Abraham was promised the LAND OF ISRAEL.

    Note also the Law had not been given, so Abraham could not follow the Law, to 'earn' it.

    Note also God swore it by Himself, a one sided deal.

    Note lastly when the Law WAS given, it was seperate from that promise:

    Deut 5: 2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

    3 he LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.


    Moses directly says God did not make this covenant with their fathers(Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob). It goes on to reiterate the Law.

    So the Law was NOT part of the Abraham promise. That is why Paul said the gifts and calling are without repentance.

    Read Romans 11 again. This time, the WHOLE THING.

    God is Jewish God. He was their God first. We only got the offer of salvation BECAUSE they rejected Him. It wasn't a surprise to Him, but part of the plan all along. He did us a favor, as Gentiles.

    You wanna talk about racism, take it up with Jesus, a Jew from the tribe of Judah, line of David.

    **AF**

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  6. How has the tiny state of israel survived this long if not for God protecting them?

    If you truly examine ezekiel 38 and 39 you see israel is indeed secular at the time of the gog invasion. It is not until that point in time that they turn back to God.

    Notice in this passage of zeke 38 that the israelis are "dwelling safely"...

    8After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

    11And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

    Notice this people is gathered out of many nations and are dwelling safely "against the mountains of israel" WITHOUT WALLS. This is what we know today as the west bank. obviously until we see this happen the gog invasion cannot happen (ie no more palestinian threat). But that is just background, lets get into the meat of it.

    16And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes

    Notice God calls them HIS PEOPLE that are gathered in israel against the mountains and wasteplaces that are now inhabited. There are no walls, they dwell in safety until Gog decides to come in and take what they have.

    But God says this is happening so that "the heathen may know me". Ok heathen are unbelievers. God is moving gog to do this so that unbelievers will know him. And God himself says HE will be SANCTIFIED in their eyes. From that point on these unbelievers will KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT that God is real and he is in favor of israel.


    Zeke 39
    7So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.


    Up until this point his people israel have indeed polluted his name. He will henceforth not allow it.

    And the clincher.

    22So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.


    HOUSE of israel is blood descendents.


    "House of israel shall know" so up until this day they don't know it...they are secular, they are backslidden. From this day forward tho they are not.

    THEREFORE

    His people israel, the blood descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, MUST be gathered into the land in unbelief BEFORE the Gog "war".

    It is at that time that they convert en masse because God has taken away their blindness. Blindness given so that we gentiles might partake of the gift of salvation.

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  7. Emmett,
    I can understand if you were brought up in a religious cult like Islam or Catholicism why you believe the lie you believe.
    You do fall into the ever growing groups of 'enemies of God', the aryans, skin heads ,the replacement theology christians,jihadists,satanists,
    do you realize this ?

    your anti bible,anti-God false belief is born in hell ,nutruted in the hearts of doomed and cursed men and has no understanding of the love of God.

    HOW COULD I SERVE A GOD WHO WOULD THROW ME IN THE TRASH AS HE SUPPOSEDLY THREW ISRAEL IN THE TRASH according to your DEADLY wrong assumption.
    I am thanknkful to God for saving me from the polluted,corrupt religion of man.(catholicism)
    Pay close attention to these few verses which deal with your fatal arrogance and ignorance.
    ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED & GOD WILL REMOVE THEIR SINS IN AN INSTANT.
    Does that make your anti-semetic heart jealouse, angry ?

    25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.



    26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    Emmett,please REPENT of this evil which you have brought into your heart whether by ignorance or by pride.
    marcel

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  8. "You believe Israel to mean only ethnic Israel, or those who are claiming to be Jewish. I don't."

    such a religious and sweet way of saying ;I hate Jews.

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  9. He doesn't get it cuz he doesn't want to. I am seeing this more pronounced of late, so do not take it as a failure on your part, marcel. Hearts have been hardened now that they cannot repent, as God did to Pharoah, so He could judge Egypt. That is never good.

    But it may be that someone who will repent will hear because God sent someone to bring up the issue publicly. Look at it that way it won't seem such a waste of time.

    The true Jew-hater is he which calls God a liar when He said He would not break His promise to His people. The people who hang here are far too wise to fall for that. You advertise how very little you understand, if anything.

    Faith, good response.

    **AF***

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  10. The 'you' the last line is emmett, not marcel

    AF

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  11. The Lord Jesus ,the Jew revealed some time ago that Israel is His line of seperation in the Church.
    A serious issue that so many miss.

    Those who don't gather with Jesus scatter abroad, and so many are scattering.
    I believe id Emmett is sincere he will be in for a much needed awakening and seperation from false brethern.
    There is always a price to pay for moving forward ,gathering with Jesus.
    it's easier to stay put in la,la land.
    Are we willing to pay it ?
    Marcel

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  12. Interesting. Because I don't believe the convoluted interpretations given by the likes of you, Darby, Scofield, and all Talmud loving dispi's, you label me an anti-semite.
    I sat back and just waited until you both hung yourselves with your own words. And I haven't called God a liar. You twist the beautiful words of scripture, add delays to God's timelines and then have the balls to call me a liar.

    One of your friends said, "such a religious and sweet way of saying ;I hate Jews."

    How simple. All followers of Darby and Scofield have been taught well. Disagree with them and you are a Jew-hater and going to hell. Salvation isn't dependent upon the cross anymore, but what you believe about the Jews. Another gospel.

    Thanks gentlemen. Your hate has shown thru well and your zionist spirit is made manifest. When anti-christ comes, you'll welcome him with open arms.

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  13. Darby, Scofield ?

    I've long ago left the wide and dangerous path of following supposed 'wise men'.


    You are a false witness with your false accusation that I imply the sacrifice of Jesus the cross is not required.
    Do you see the evil of your false accusation or are you blind to this also ?
    Israel is truly a line of division with the apostate,backslid,pompous,Laodecian Church.

    Maybe thats your problem,you follow men and not Jesus.
    So who are these decievers you follow ,Emmett ?

    Baptist ?
    Marcel

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