Yes i agree with this man on the video, havn't seen bb but this man who is preaching is good, yes i agree most of the church is waiting to disappear, they will be waiting for a while that is certain. Thanks for the link. A seed sower.
OH duh, i was thinging benjamin netanyahooooo...sorry saints..benjamin baruch is a good preacher....worth the watch worth the listen...truth... A seed sower
I listened to the whole thing I agree with a lot of it. Some of the things I believe are his belief of how things are going to play out. But it is good because it will get people to thinking and hopefully repenting and readying themsleves for what is to come upon America. God is the refuge for the children of God...Amen
could you be more specific ? Everything he says has to be backed up by scripture and I believe it is. Did you hear M.Boldea at spirit 1 radio today ? He is busy.
I look forward to the day that the Lord judges all the false prophets for prophesying falsely. I really can't see much difference in the Muslim terrorists and these guys. I know in Joel it says that the day of the Lord will come and woe to those that wish it to come. That The Lords Army will come from a far away land from the end of the earth. Hear that! From a far away land. The ones all the false preachers are talking about are already here. Makes no sense to me. Jesus aint coming either! The God of Jacob and David is the one coming and David will be raised from the dead and will be King over Israel. Come on guys try to interpret scriptuer correctly! Huh?
I never can get that spirit one thing to work, i am going to bed now but i will go into detail on bb tomorrow if i get time...probably the last 4 min tad unsure that scripture backs up the america destroyed, america repents, people leaving, if nuclear bombs drop how we gonna leave- sprout wings??? to sleepy to go deeper, but i think i will listen to the whole thing again and take notes so i can be clear..just some things he said don't match scripture, think he kinda blends it with his view of how he thinks things will play out...not that i don't believe america is going to fall as a nation...we are under torando watch here till 1pm pray for us ..ok ty God bless
At the link, I found the location, /Benjamin Baruch/download, ....on the videos page.
But when i click on download, nothing happens.
It may be a browser incompatibility.
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On the subject of we believers getting up, and 'going to Jerusalem', is this scriptural Marcel?
".....I hope you survive whats coming and head for Israel." "......I will see you along with many of the saints in the New Jerusalem...Amen"
I stand to be corrected Marcel, but in this life, aren't we asked to WAIT on the LORD?
I would suggest, that WHERE-EVER we are right now, is 'sufficient' for our LORD. [....unless we indeed, receive a vision from our LORD, directly charging that we move to Israel]
Please believe, ABSOLUTELY, our LORD is able to protect, or gather us, no matter where we are on this earth. Have faith. And should we alternatively succumb, and 'pass-over', is that to be dreaded? Not at all!!! Myself, i do not seek my death, but sincerely, if it comes [when it comes!!! :)) ] i will be *glad* to 'go to God' [....why? because the LORD has shown me something of this already, in a night vision, 2006,Nov. please don't ask, as i could not 'prove' it to you. and i have no special knowledge or insight in what is coming. my vision was personal in nature. ]
Marcel, does this following admonition in Matthew have any bearing here?....
".....For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
I said in my last post that i had, ".......a night vision, 2006,Nov. please don't ask, as i could not 'prove' it to you........."
For a few years, i had a health issue, that i maybe should have addressed. But i was frankly unconcerned about it, because i figured that even if i 'jumped through the hoops' i probably couldn't do a lot about it anyway. And, it would eventually be resolved, one way or another. Frankly, i just wasn't that worried about it. Then i had that night vision. It is fully sufficient for me just to say, that *after* having that vision, the words of our LORD, in Matthew 10:29-31 , were confirmed to my own heart. Our LORD dearly, dearly, loves us all Marcel.
Matthew 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
You are wrong and do not know scripture. You should learn from David's own words.
[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool Psalm 110
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Psalm 2:7 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.Psalm2:12
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; Zechariah 12:10-12
The majority of Joshua's descendants still do not know who he removed his sandal's and bowed down and WORSHIPED before. Soon the veil will be removed from the eyes of every Jew.
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. Joshua 5
If you listened to B.Baruch you heard him speak of the prophets of Baal who serve another Lord. Israel, Jews and Christians are full of these false prophets who bend their knee to their idol and his false peace agenda. They silently go along with the theft of God's land for no peace. The house of God is full of greed, wickedness and lawlessness and He will cleanse His house. As for the Jewish false prophets ,every Rabbi who goes along with the 2 state solution,the Road Map, are false prophets who speak against the Holy One of Israel,against His words .They follow after lies and have not the faith of Abraham. They have been tested and failed the test of God. These are false prophets who teach lies and who do not really believe God.They prove this by following their god Bush and his Road Map. Christian and Jew ,their religion of man made traditions and serving idols will go the way of the worshipers of Baal when Elijah brougth the fire and judgment of God upon all of them.
I currently have the grandkids so cant listen to the whole video right now, but one point from what I have re-listened to this morning: 1. He mentions Margaret Macdonald,in a good prophetic light, and quotes her...she actually was a false prophet and in fact it was she that prophesied the pre-trib rapture back in the 1800's.
1 Timothy 1:4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.
2 Timothy 2:23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
Titus 3:9-11 9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Helen, I hope you did not miss the point where he rebuked and derided the false pre-trib rapture as a great deception and a lie. I did a google search and found where he got much of what he said on this at the beginning of his message. She did see the true condition of the church today. Here it is ; One of McDonald's prophecies In 1861, the Catholic Apostolic Church published one of McDonald's prophetic visions in the publication titled The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets. The text of the prophecy is in the public domain and is included below in italics:
"It was first the awful state of the land that was pressed upon me. I saw the blindness and infatuation of the people to be very great. I felt the cry of Liberty just to be the hiss of the serpent, to drown them in perdition. It was just 'no God.' I repeated the words, Now there is distress of nations, with perplexity, the seas and the waves roaring, men's hearts failing them for fear. Now look out for the sign of the Son of Man. Here I was made to stop and cry out, O it is not known what the sign of the Son of Man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it; but suddenly what it was burst upon me with a glorious light. I saw it was just the Lord himself descending from Heaven with a shout, just the glorified man, even Jesus; but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father's glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people. Many passages were revealed, in a light in which I had not before seen them. I repeated, 'Now is the kingdom of Heaven like unto ten virgins, who went forth to meet the Bridegroom, five wise and five foolish; they that were foolish took their lamps, but took no oil with them; but they that were wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.' 'But be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is; and be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit.' This was the oil the wise virgins took in their vessels - this is the light to be kept burning - the light of God - that we may discern that which cometh not with observation to the natural eye. Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance. No need to follow them who say, see here, or see there, for his day shall be as the lightning to those in whom the living Christ is. 'Tis Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - 'tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air. I saw that we must be in the Spirit, that we might see spiritual things. John was in the Spirit, when he saw a throne set in Heaven. But I saw that the glory of the ministration of the Spirit had not been known. I repeated frequently, but the spiritual temple must and shall be reared, and the fullness of Christ be poured into his body, and then shall we be caught up to meet him. Oh none will be counted worthy of this calling but his body, which is the church, and which must be a candlestick all of gold. I often said, Oh the glorious inbreaking of God which is now about to burst on this earth; Oh the glorious temple which is now about to be reared, the bride adorned for her husband; and Oh what a holy, holy bride she must he, to be prepared for such a glorious bridegroom. I said, Now shall the people of God have to do with realities - now shall the glorious mystery of God in our nature be known - now shall it be known what it is for man to be glorified. I felt that the revelation of Jesus Christ had yet to be opened up - it is not knowledge about God that it contains, but it is an entering into God - I saw that there was a glorious breaking in of God to be. I felt as Elijah, surrounded with chariots of fire. I saw as it were, the spiritual temple reared, and the Head Stone brought forth with shoutings of grace, grace, unto it. It was a glorious light above the brightness of the sun that shone round about me. I felt that those who were filled with the Spirit could see spiritual things, and feel walking in the midst of them, while those who had not the Spirit could see nothing - so that two shall be in one bed, the one taken and the other left, because the one has the light of God within while the other cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven. I saw the people of God in an awfully dangerous situation, surrounded by nets and entanglements, about to be tried, and many about to be deceived and fall. Now will THE WICKED be revealed, with all power and signs and lying wonders, so that it it were possible the very elect will be deceived - This is the fiery trial which is to try us. - It will be for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus; but Oh it will be a fiery trial. Every soul will he shaken to the very centre. The enemy will try to shake in every thing we have believed - but the trial of real faith will be found to honour and praise and glory. Nothing but what is of God will stand. The stony-ground hearers will be made manifest - the love of many will wax cold. I frequently said that night, and often since, now shall the awful sight of a false Christ be seen on this earth, and nothing but the living Christ in us can detect this awful attempt of the enemy to deceive - for it is with all deceivableness of unrighteousness he will work - he will have a counterpart for every part of God's truth, and an imitation for every work of the Spirit. The Spirit must and will be poured out on the church, that she may be purified and filled with God - and just in proportion as the Spirit of God works, so will he - when our Lord anoints men with power, so will he. This is particularly the nature of the trial, through which those are to pass who will be counted worthy to stand before the Son of man. There will he outward trial too, but 'tis principally temptation. It is brought on by the outpouring of the Spirit, and will just increase in proportion as the Spirit is poured out. The trial of the Church is from Antichrist. It is by being filled with the Spirit that we shall be kept. I frequently said, Oh be filled with the Spirit - have the light of God in you, that you may detect Satan - be full of eyes within -be clay in the hands of the potter -submit to be filled, filled with God. This will build the temple. It is not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord. This will fit us to enter into the marriage supper of the Lamb. I saw it to be the will of God that all should be filled. But what hindered the real life of God from being received by his people, was their turning from Jesus, who is the way to the Father. They were not entering in by the door. For he is faithful who hath said, by me if any man enters in he shall find pasture. They were bypassing the cross, through which every drop of the Spirit of God flows to us. All power that comes not through the blood of Christ is not of God. When I say, they are looking from the cross, I feel that there is much in it - they turn from the blood of the Lamb, by which we overcome, and in which our robes are washed and made white. There are low views of God's holiness, and a ceasing to condemn sin in the flesh, and a looking from him who humbled himself, and made himself of no reputation. Oh! it is needed, much needed at present, a leading back to the cross. I saw that night, and often since, that there will be an outpouring of the Spirit on the body, such as has not been, a baptism of fire, that all the dross may be put away. Oh there must and will be such an indwelling of the living God as has not been - the servants of God sealed in their foreheads - great conformity to Jesus - his holy holy image seen in his people - just the bride made comely by his comeliness put upon her. This is what we are at present made to pray much for, that speedily we may all be made ready to meet our Lord in the air - and it will be. Jesus wants his bride. His desire is toward us. He that shall come, will come, and will not tarry. Amen and Amen Even so come Lord Jesus. http://mishkaned.multiply.com/journal/item/628
Yes, in the past i have read her prophecies, when doing a study on the pre-trib rapture. While she has some good things to say, I never base my walk with the Lord on what any one who calls themselves a prophet has to say. I always hold up what they say to the light of the gospel. I have found that while prophets have their place, nothing replaces the written Word of God. That I trust 100%. I trust also what the Lord speaks to my heart, I have never found him to be wrong even once. Amen
seed sower , thank you for being the catalyst for me to do a google search on McDonald. I found this web site and helped me to get my first video up. http://mishkaned.multiply.com/ That's something you had mentioned to me earlier and now finally i figured it out. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks ?
seed sower , I never got your and walters message at my email ,only found it at the blog so I'm late in responding to it. you wrote if nuclear bombs drop how we gonna leave- sprout wings??? The Lord put it on my heart many years ago to get out of big city Orlando and he provided a way and a place. He's leadinf and I'm listening and the desire of my heart is to be in Jewusalem rather than incinerated. I believe the Lord will make the way and if not then, I'll be back there to my most favorite city in the world soon enough. What is the desire of your heart ? Let Jerusalem come to your mind. Walter wrote; On the subject of we believers getting up, and 'going to Jerusalem', is this scriptural Marcel? Yes ,yes it is ,you'll find it in Jeremiah .You who escape, Let Jerusalem come to your mind.
Zion ,Jesus reigns in Zion and this is where His throne and Kingdom is established.
On the Prophetic conference, Don't hit download, click play Benjamin is #3 VINCENT AND HIS WIFE ALSO HAVE A GREAT MESSAGE ALONG WITH MATTHEW STEPHENS. I heard him yesterday with Michael Boldea on spirit 1 radio.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem Isaiah 2:3 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind. Jeremiah 51:50
The Lord has chosen only one nation and we had better be grafted in to the commonwealth of Israel. Ephesiahs 2:12 That's the Word of God !
The Tanakh does not mention the N.T. The people that believe in the sacrifice of a human son are Baal worshippers, according to scripture in the Tanakh. The people that are already dead that believe this false doctrine will not be raised from the dead. They have already received the curse, Eternal death, YHVH is a Mighty-One of Justice, it would not be justice to be brought back and destroyed again. I believe there is a hell, it is the grave, where the dead are put to rot away.
David will be the only ruler when Judah and Israel reunite !
Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith YHVH: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O my people; and I will bring you into the land of Jacob. Eze 37:13 And ye shall know that I am YHVH, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, O my people. Eze 37:14 And I will put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and ye shall know that I, YHVH, have spoken it and performed it, saith YHVH. Eze 37:15 The word of YHVH came again unto me, saying, Eze 37:16 And thou, son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: Eze 37:17 and join them for thee one to another into one stick, that they may become one in thy hand. Eze 37:18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not show us what thou meanest by these? Eze 37:19 say unto them, Thus saith YHVH: Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his companions; and I will put them with it, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in my hand. Eze 37:20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thy hand before their eyes. Eze 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith YHVH: IsBehold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, whither they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: (This is future )
Eze 37:22 and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all; Eze 37:23 neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them out of all their dwelling-places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their Mighty-One. Eze 37:24 And my servant David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in mine ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them. Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children's children, for ever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever. Eze 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; ( JER.31:31-34 ) it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. Eze 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them; and I will be their Husband, and they shall be my people. Eze 37:28 And the nations shall know that I am YHVH ….
Contrary to what you have been taught, our Fathers word says David will be the only King in the Kingdom when the tribes of Judah and the ten tribes of Jacob reunite in the future ! Please read Hosea 3:5, Ex.4;22, Jer.30:9 very carefully !
What's the bets you don't publish this? Just like some of the other e-mails I've sent. You must feel threatned!
Well the Lord has not led me to depart, nor told me to depart from america. If I am to be incenerated then I will be with the Lord before you, and in a much better place. That is after all what we all should be yearning for...to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.... and if it is good enough for his disciples to yearn to go to be with Him then its good enough for me....it is my hearts desire to be in the presence of The Lord...Amen
anon , i find it fascinating that you don't even have the spine to leave your name with what you have written. Don't crouch behind anonominity Stand up.
Marcel, regards the scripture you cited supporting, a call for us to travel to Israel....
Isaiah 2:3 Jeremiah 51:50 Ephesians 2:12
Isaiah is talking of '.... in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house **shall be** established'. It has not been established yet Marcel, it is yet to come. Men rule in Jerusalem today.
Read verse 2 also.
Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
You say Jeremiah is speaking of a call for believers [Jews] who escape Babylon's fall, to go to Jerusalem? It could be, but this interpretation is not conclusive, and this message is not explicit. It could just be a call for those Jews who escaped the sword [when Babylon falls], that where-ever they may afterward find themselves, to '....remember the LORD **afar off**, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.'
Jeremiah 51:50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
Couldn't Jeremiah 51:50 just be a call, NOT TO FORGET Jerusalem ?...
e.g. as in..... Psalms 137:1 ¶By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion. 2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof. 3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. 4 How shall we sing the LORD'S song in a strange land? 5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning. 6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
Again, Ephesians, is talking of non-believers, when they were *before*, and without God, 'at that time ye were without Christ'....'But *now* in Christ Jesus.......are made nigh by the blood of Christ.'..... We '...are made nigh by the blood of Christ.'
Ephesians 2:11 ¶Wherefore remember, that ye being ***in time past*** Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Marcel, i feel sure that our LORD, the Holy One of Israel, is standing with Israel, and her people, and is well able to bring about all things determined for that place. But Marcel, if you feel you are called by the spirit of our LORD to do this, to travel Israel / Jerusalem, then, yes. You are correct to follow that urging from our LORD.
Isaiah 62:6 ¶I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence, 7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
It's easy to pick out a verse or two or 14 to fit into your small religious box.
I have just a few scriptures that you religiously ignore.
I've got hundreds more but want to hear from you on these below.
When Moshe asked God who he would tell Pharoah had sent him,God told him ,I am. (I will be what I will be) Your telling God who and what He is is the height of presumption and arrogance. A good Jew like yourself knows full well Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man in our image is PLURAL",so stop telling God what He is and stop ignoring the word of God you do not like.
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deut 6:4 Echad here is plural in Hebrew ,not singular.
Who did Joshua worship ?
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. Joshua 5
David understood what you do not. and this first verse of Psalm 110 proves it is not David who sits on the throne as you said.
Are you humble enough to admit you are wrong or full of vain religious pride ? I am not going to argue God's word here with you ,so if this is what you are looking for instead of the truth ,please don't waste my time or yours.
[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalm 110:1
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Psalm 2:7 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.Psalm 2:12
Who did the house of David pierce ?
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; Zechariah 12:10-12
Please stop putting God in your small religion box. He does not fit. Join with Moshe and let God be what He WILL BE.
For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: Isaiah 2:12
Walter wrote : Isaiah is talking of '.... in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house **shall be** established'. It has not been established yet Marcel, it is yet to come. Men rule in Jerusalem today.
So are you going to wait and change your mind to agree with it then ? You seem to look for every excuse not to believe it ? Jerusalem is Jerusalem, is it ,like it or not !
Walter wrote ; You say Jeremiah is speaking of a call for believers [Jews] who escape Babylon's fall, to go to Jerusalem? It could be, but this interpretation is not conclusive, and this message is not explicit.
Couldn't Jeremiah 51:50 just be a call, NOT TO FORGET Jerusalem ?... Walter, Your country is obliterated and unihabitable after God's great destruction. I think any survivor will be past just 'not forgetting' JerusalEm but headed there if Jesus reigns in his heart.
It could be ,it could be ,it could be you are looking for any way to disprove what the scripture is clearl saying ? Jeremiah 23;20 c does it speak to you ?
But Marcel, if you feel you are called by the spirit of our LORD to do this, to travel Israel / Jerusalem, then, yes. You are correct to follow that urging from our LORD.
I don't understand how anyone would not want to be where Jesus is ? He only has chosen one nation and that is Israel.
Jesus is omni present and dwells in the hearts of His chosen ones by His Holy Spirit, He does not dwell in the land of Israel alone...Amen..we don't have to travel to be in His presence, He is with me now...Amen..
Marcel said.... ".......I don't understand how anyone would not want to be where Jesus is ?....."
So Jesus is in Israel???
And i reply,
Matthew 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
and as a seed sower reminds us...
'where Jesus is ?',
2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
and....
Colossians 3:1 ¶If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Amos 5:4 ¶For thus saith the LORD unto the house of Israel, Seek ye me, and ye shall live: 5 But seek not Bethel, nor enter into Gilgal, and pass not to Beersheba: for Gilgal shall surely go into captivity, and Bethel shall come to nought. 6 Seek the LORD, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Bethel.
Seek the LORD, where?
John 4:24 God is a Spirit:
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 41 I receive not honour from men.
"I receive not honour from men." !!
Matthew 6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Psalms 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering. 17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. 18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. 19 Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar.
".......Jesus aint coming either! The God of Jacob and David is the one coming and David will be raised from the dead and will be King over Israel. Come on guys try to interpret scriptuer correctly!........."
".......David will be the only ruler when Judah and Israel reunite ! ......."
Jesus 'aint' coming. And we Christians should interpret scripture correctly!
Anonymous, that is *very* good advice [about interpreting scripture].
Take a look in a mirror sometime!
And study closely, the 5 books of Moses.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 41 I receive not honour from men.
'Anonymous' Moses will accuse you, and your brothers, because Moses knew of our LORD, and prophesied of his coming......
John 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
I am surprised how easily you missed what I was saying. Jesus is not returning to Washington or any other physical location on eart to rule. He's going to rule from Jerusalem. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised that you both missed this ?
I do believe we are at the last of the last days and Jesus ,the Lord of Armies is about to defend Jerusalem,Israel from the armies that will soon compass her. Your vision is to stay put,mine is to see the Lord vanquish His enemies and help in the clean up. Go for your vision because where there is no vision,only religion ,the people perish.
After the Lord has wiped out Israel's enemies I would love to be there to help bury the dead .
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD. And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. Ezekiel 39
"a seed sower said... Well the Lord has not led me to depart, nor told me to depart from america. If I am to be incenerated then I will be with the Lord before you, and in a much better place. That is after all what we all should be yearning for...to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.... and if it is good enough for his disciples to yearn to go to be with Him then its good enough for me....it is my hearts desire to be in the presence of The Lord...Amen"
Very dangerous thinking in light of the following scriptures:
Jeremiah 50:8 "Move from the midst of Babylon, Go out of the land of the Chaldeans; And be like the rams before the flocks.
Jeremiah 51:6 Flee from the midst of Babylon, And every one save his life! Do not be cut off in her iniquity, For this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; He shall recompense her.
Jeremiah 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, But she is not healed. Forsake her, and let us go everyone to his own country; For her judgment reaches to heaven and is lifted up to the skies.
Jeremiah 51:45 "My people, go out of the midst of her! And let everyone deliver himself from the fierce anger of the Lord.
Jeremiah 51:50 You who have escaped the sword, Get away! Do not stand still! Remember the Lord afar off, And let Jerusalem come to your mind.
as well as the NT warning if we stay in Mystery Babylon we will share her sin and receive her plagues....
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
So yes, the Lord has told each and every one of us that when the call comes to "come out" we had better come out.
Dying here in disobedience to The Lord will likely cost us loss of eternal life.
"Dying here in disobedience to The Lord will likely cost us loss of eternal life." James ,I think you need to be more careful and let the Lord be the judge of that. Not everyone of God's people are going up to Zion and that does not make them damned.
We get what we settle for and for some it's incineration ,not necessarily hell.
James ,Have you been to Israel ? There is no possible way every Christian could fit in such a small country. The reality is ,most of us will be vaporized when the surprise attack red star missiles hit our cities. It's going to come as a surprise ,a snare as did the fall of Babylon while they were having a party. The handwriting is already on our wall here. I might be living too close to Central Command in Tampa ,a sure target as is Jacksonville and 1000's of outher cities. Only the Lord will enable us to escape. I've signed up to be on the list.
An important thing to note is that not everyone who considers themselves a Christian is considered by God to be a Christian.
Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
It IS Gods will that we leave when the call comes. He said so numerous times in Jeremiah and once in Revealation.
To disobey is sin. To disobey is to share in her sins.
To obey is better than sacrifice.
1 Samuel 15:22,23 22 So Samuel said: "Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, As in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams. 23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, He also has rejected you from being king."
And besides, The Word tells us to go to "our own country", not necessarily Israel.
Jeremiah 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, But she is not healed. Forsake her, and let us go everyone to his own country; For her judgment reaches to heaven and is lifted up to the skies.
The Word also tells us to "let Jerusalem come to you mind". That doesn't mean we HAVE to go there. We will be caught up to meet the Lord over Jerusalem when he comes.
Jeremiah 51:50 You who have escaped the sword, Get away! Do not stand still! Remember the Lord afar off, And let Jerusalem come to your mind.
This verse seems to be speaking of the time following Babylons primary destruction by fire but before the invasion force arrives.
I live in a marked city, the seat of child sacarific Wichita, Kansas, but I trust my life to the Lord who has never forsaken me, ever. I am not in a position to flee any where, so I have to trust my life to the Lord.
He has in the last 3 years, moved 3 of my dearest friends out of state, and just in the last 2 weeks he has moved my daughter her husband and her 3 boys out of state. I still have a husband, a son and wife and 3 girls in this city.
I feel disaster about to approach this city and state, and i am not attempting to be prophetic by the way, just reality, and I am sure there are others who feel the same, but we must all put our trust in the Most High God. Amen
But please understand that I'm not trying to condemn anyone to hell.
a seed sower originally stated:
"Well the Lord has not led me to depart, nor told me to depart from america......"
And I'm saying the Word absolutely has told us to depart from Mystery Babylon when the call comes.
What the Word states is what we are to base our faith on, not an audible voice. Especially if it contradicts the written Word.
1 Corinthians 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
When tempted by the devil, Jesus did not say, "I heard that it was said." but rather He said, "It is written."
We are free at any time to "judge ourselves unworthy of everlasting life" by giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, deceiving ourselves by being hearers and not doers of The Word, living according to the flesh or practicing the works of the flesh.
The scripture, which cannot be broken, states:
Ac 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, "It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles.
To reject the Word of God is to "judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life" as our brethren before us testified.
A clue as to when the call is coming is here:
Jeremiah 51:46 And lest your heart faint, And you fear for the rumor that will be heard in the land (A rumor will come one year, And after that, in another year A rumor will come, And violence in the land, Ruler against ruler),
"I feel disaster about to approach this city and state, and i am not attempting to be prophetic by the way, just reality, and I am sure there are others who feel the same, but we must all put our trust in the Most High God. Amen" Helen, Faith is better than location. I just finished listening to a MESSAGE from a pastor in Singapore and you're in good hands in the midst of the storm. The disciples woke up Jesus who was sleeping comfortabally in the back of the boat because they were in panic and forgot who was with them. He reminded them ,wow did He remind them. May He remind us always.
Reading back through my comments I find that sometimes it is very hard to state the truth without coming across as judging or condemning.
Jesus said:
John 12:47,48 47 And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
May we all have the mind of Christ.
And also let us pray that The Lord will make a way for ALL of us to come out when the time comes.
Hebrews 7:25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Oklahoma City, Wichita, Topeka, Omaha, Des Moines and Minneapolis are amongst the cities being threatened by the dangerous severe weather. from accu weather today. Sounds like this nation is already at war and our Enemy is targeting our cities.
"......I feel disaster about to approach this city and state, and i am not attempting to be prophetic by the way, just reality, and I am sure there are others who feel the same, but we must all put our trust in the Most High God......."
A seed sower, these are the right words you have used... '....we must all put our trust in the Most High God.'
A seed sower, may our LORD bless you greatly, and gather you to himself, at his coming.
As i think you know already, a seed sower, this flesh, is less than nothing.
We are all, only here for a short time.
We come here, and we all learn of 'the world', we learn of its folly, and cruelty, its lies.
Many of us are 'taken in' by this world, it seduces many with its lies and promises.
But we [many] eventually see a LIGHT and a TRUTH [in our lives], not of this world.
Some, many, seek out that LIGHT and that TRUTH.
And we are meant to, walk that spiritual journey, on our 'way back home'.
Because as you have come to know a seed sower, this is not our home.
We are meant to learn, that this world, and what it offers is folly and falsehood.
And all things in this flesh reflect that folly and falsehood.
In our journey here, we find our LORD's message and we choose to wait upon HIM, because we too love his TRUTH, and his LIGHT.
Always trust in our LORD a seed sower.
HE is FAITHFUL and TRUE, as you know already, because he has witnessed this to your own heart, with his spirit.
You have rejected this world, because you seek HIM, and seek his TRUTH, and seek his RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Our LORD is the LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Keep the faith , and search his word for truth, strength in these times that will try all men.
wasn't it the guy from new wine ministries who made a prophesy a while back about something happening around passover. i don't rememeber that it came to pass.why are they still given space when they prophesy falsely. they seem to be part of the kingdom now manifest sons movement. false doctrine false prophesy dave c in ct
I went back and check after I had posted it on my blog. It was a maybe not a prophecy. I don't hear manifest sons ,just what Daniel says about hte saint in these last day's.
Did you take the time to listen to the message I linked to ?
I didn't link to Matthew Stephens because I am not convinced ?? I want the Lord to answer me if it so.
You do see that things have ratcheted up and are now moving forward faster ?
The whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth over the heartland of America.
Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked. Jeremiah 23:19 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. Jeremiah 25:32 Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked Jeremiah 30:23
Vincent and his wife spoke and it was good but I chose to only recommend Benjamin's message.
Who will do exploits in this dark time? It is the manifested sons of God. It is the governmental body of Christ establishing kingdom authority all over the world. this was taken from the message given by vincent. he never did say thus says the LORD but it does read as if he was giving a prophecy. i will have to listen to message by barauch. but if he should be watchful of the pulpits he shares.for instance if someone was to share a platform with benny hinn his message would be comprimised just by the fact that he was together with a false prophet. elijah did not share a platform with the prophets of baal he made his own opposed to them. i will gladly listen to message and give my humble opinion. GOD BLESS and keep you brother. davec in ct
Thanks dave c . There is much that is false and deception today and we must keep our eyes on Jesus. Benjamin mentioned Micah 7 about not trusting a neighbor,ect.treacherous betrayal ahead . The LORD HAS SHOWN ME THE SAME WORD LATE LAST YEAR. I need to fast and pray more. ------------------------ I'm listening to RickWiles at tru news.com now who just said 'we are true Israel' .He has a simering hatred for physical Israel ,but other than that he preaches Jesus and the gospel of the kingdom. How sad he does not hear Romans 11: 18-22.
we all must.we are in the birth bpangs if you ask me but every day the picture comes more and more into focus.i can not be dogmatic about how the last days will unfold i am only dogmatic in that the LORD will return.i do feel it is very soon.but i am sure that the LORD will surprise us all.at h HIS first coming the jews could not reconcile seeming contradictions between messiah son of joseph and messiah son of david.we obviously know now how those uestions were answered. i wait to seee how the LoRD will reconcile the arguements between pre mid post tribulation teachings. i am told to look up when i see these things so i am looking up and not out.GOD BLESS brother we are a day closer and the picture becomes clearer. davec in ct
Yes i agree with this man on the video, havn't seen bb but this man who is preaching is good, yes i agree most of the church is waiting to disappear, they will be waiting for a while that is certain. Thanks for the link.
ReplyDeleteA seed sower.
OH duh, i was thinging benjamin netanyahooooo...sorry saints..benjamin baruch is a good preacher....worth the watch worth the listen...truth...
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Helen,
ReplyDeleteI think most of those waiting to disappear will, but not the way they thought.
I hope you had a chance to listen to the whole 64 minutes.
I listened to all the speakers on Saturday and this one stood out the most.
I hope you survive whats coming and head for Israel.
See you there.
I trust I will see you along with many of the saints in the New Jerusalem...Amen
ReplyDeleteI listened to the whole thing I agree with a lot of it. Some of the things I believe are his belief of how things are going to play out. But it is good because it will get people to thinking and hopefully repenting and readying themsleves for what is to come upon America. God is the refuge for the children of God...Amen
ReplyDeletecould you be more specific ?
ReplyDeleteEverything he says has to be backed up by scripture and I believe it is.
Did you hear M.Boldea at spirit 1 radio today ?
He is busy.
I look forward to the day that the Lord judges all the false prophets for prophesying falsely. I really can't see much difference in the Muslim terrorists and these guys. I know in Joel it says that the day of the Lord will come and woe to those that wish it to come. That The Lords Army will come from a far away land from the end of the earth. Hear that! From a far away land. The ones all the false preachers are talking about are already here. Makes no sense to me. Jesus aint coming either! The God of Jacob and David is the one coming and David will be raised from the dead and will be King over Israel. Come on guys try to interpret scriptuer correctly! Huh?
ReplyDeleteI never can get that spirit one thing to work, i am going to bed now but i will go into detail on bb tomorrow if i get time...probably the last 4 min tad unsure that scripture backs up the america destroyed, america repents, people leaving, if nuclear bombs drop how we gonna leave- sprout wings??? to sleepy to go deeper, but i think i will listen to the whole thing again and take notes so i can be clear..just some things he said don't match scripture, think he kinda blends it with his view of how he thinks things will play out...not that i don't believe america is going to fall as a nation...we are under torando watch here till 1pm pray for us ..ok ty God bless
ReplyDeleteHi Marcel,
ReplyDeleteAt the link, I found the location, /Benjamin Baruch/download, ....on the videos page.
But when i click on download, nothing happens.
It may be a browser incompatibility.
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On the subject of we believers getting up, and 'going to Jerusalem', is this scriptural Marcel?
".....I hope you survive whats coming and head for Israel."
"......I will see you along with many of the saints in the New Jerusalem...Amen"
I stand to be corrected Marcel, but in this life, aren't we asked to WAIT on the LORD?
I would suggest, that WHERE-EVER we are right now, is 'sufficient' for our LORD.
[....unless we indeed, receive a vision from our LORD, directly charging that we move to Israel]
Please believe, ABSOLUTELY, our LORD is able to protect, or gather us, no matter where we are on this earth.
Have faith.
And should we alternatively succumb, and 'pass-over', is that to be dreaded?
Not at all!!!
Myself, i do not seek my death, but sincerely, if it comes [when it comes!!! :)) ] i will be *glad* to 'go to God'
[....why? because the LORD has shown me something of this already, in a night vision, 2006,Nov. please don't ask, as i could not 'prove' it to you. and i have no special knowledge or insight in what is coming. my vision was personal in nature. ]
Marcel, does this following admonition in Matthew have any bearing here?....
".....For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Marcel,
ReplyDeleteI said in my last post that i had,
".......a night vision, 2006,Nov. please don't ask, as i could not 'prove' it to you........."
For a few years, i had a health issue, that i maybe should have addressed.
But i was frankly unconcerned about it, because i figured that even if i 'jumped through the hoops' i probably couldn't do a lot about it anyway.
And, it would eventually be resolved, one way or another.
Frankly, i just wasn't that worried about it.
Then i had that night vision.
It is fully sufficient for me just to say, that *after* having that vision, the words of our LORD, in Matthew 10:29-31 , were confirmed to my own heart.
Our LORD dearly, dearly, loves us all Marcel.
Matthew 10:29
Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
You are wrong and do not know scripture.
ReplyDeleteYou should learn from David's own words.
[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool Psalm 110
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psalm 2:7
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.Psalm2:12
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn
In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Zechariah 12:10-12
The majority of Joshua's descendants still do not know who he removed his sandal's and bowed down and WORSHIPED before.
Soon the veil will be removed from the eyes of every Jew.
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. Joshua 5
If you listened to B.Baruch you heard him speak of the prophets of Baal who serve another Lord.
Israel, Jews and Christians are full of these false prophets who bend their knee to their idol and his false peace agenda.
They silently go along with the theft of God's land for no peace.
The house of God is full of greed, wickedness and lawlessness and He will cleanse His house.
As for the Jewish false prophets ,every Rabbi who goes along with the 2 state solution,the Road Map, are false prophets who speak against the Holy One of Israel,against His words .They follow after lies and have not the faith of Abraham.
They have been tested and failed the test of God.
These are false prophets who teach lies and who do not really believe God.They prove this by following their god Bush and his Road Map.
Christian and Jew ,their religion of man made traditions and serving idols will go the way of the worshipers of Baal when Elijah brougth the fire and judgment of God upon all of them.
I currently have the grandkids so cant listen to the whole video right now, but one point from what I have re-listened to this morning: 1. He mentions Margaret Macdonald,in a good prophetic light, and quotes her...she actually was a false prophet and in fact it was she that prophesied the pre-trib rapture back in the 1800's.
ReplyDeleteBrethren,
ReplyDelete1 Timothy 1:4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.
2 Timothy 2:23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
Titus 3:9-11 9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
I cannot add a thing to these words.
Helen,
ReplyDeleteI hope you did not miss the point where he rebuked and derided the false pre-trib rapture as a great deception and a lie.
I did a google search and found where he got much of what he said on this at the beginning of his message.
She did see the true condition of the church today.
Here it is ;
One of McDonald's prophecies
In 1861, the Catholic Apostolic Church published one of McDonald's prophetic visions in the publication titled The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets. The text of the prophecy is in the public domain and is included below in italics:
"It was first the awful state of the land that was pressed upon me. I saw the blindness and infatuation of the people to be very great. I felt the cry of Liberty just to be the hiss of the serpent, to drown them in perdition. It was just 'no God.' I repeated the words, Now there is distress of nations, with perplexity, the seas and the waves roaring, men's hearts failing them for fear. Now look out for the sign of the Son of Man. Here I was made to stop and cry out, O it is not known what the sign of the Son of Man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it; but suddenly what it was burst upon me with a glorious light. I saw it was just the Lord himself descending from Heaven with a shout, just the glorified man, even Jesus; but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father's glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people. Many passages were revealed, in a light in which I had not before seen them. I repeated, 'Now is the kingdom of Heaven like unto ten virgins, who went forth to meet the Bridegroom, five wise and five foolish; they that were foolish took their lamps, but took no oil with them; but they that were wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.' 'But be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is; and be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit.' This was the oil the wise virgins took in their vessels - this is the light to be kept burning - the light of God - that we may discern that which cometh not with observation to the natural eye. Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance. No need to follow them who say, see here, or see there, for his day shall be as the lightning to those in whom the living Christ is. 'Tis Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - 'tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air. I saw that we must be in the Spirit, that we might see spiritual things. John was in the Spirit, when he saw a throne set in Heaven. But I saw that the glory of the ministration of the Spirit had not been known. I repeated frequently, but the spiritual temple must and shall be reared, and the fullness of Christ be poured into his body, and then shall we be caught up to meet him. Oh none will be counted worthy of this calling but his body, which is the church, and which must be a candlestick all of gold. I often said, Oh the glorious inbreaking of God which is now about to burst on this earth; Oh the glorious temple which is now about to be reared, the bride adorned for her husband; and Oh what a holy, holy bride she must he, to be prepared for such a glorious bridegroom. I said, Now shall the people of God have to do with realities - now shall the glorious mystery of God in our nature be known - now shall it be known what it is for man to be glorified. I felt that the revelation of Jesus Christ had yet to be opened up - it is not knowledge about God that it contains, but it is an entering into God - I saw that there was a glorious breaking in of God to be. I felt as Elijah, surrounded with chariots of fire. I saw as it were, the spiritual temple reared, and the Head Stone brought forth with shoutings of grace, grace, unto it. It was a glorious light above the brightness of the sun that shone round about me. I felt that those who were filled with the Spirit could see spiritual things, and feel walking in the midst of them, while those who had not the Spirit could see nothing - so that two shall be in one bed, the one taken and the other left, because the one has the light of God within while the other cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven. I saw the people of God in an awfully dangerous situation, surrounded by nets and entanglements, about to be tried, and many about to be deceived and fall. Now will THE WICKED be revealed, with all power and signs and lying wonders, so that it it were possible the very elect will be deceived - This is the fiery trial which is to try us. - It will be for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus; but Oh it will be a fiery trial. Every soul will he shaken to the very centre. The enemy will try to shake in every thing we have believed - but the trial of real faith will be found to honour and praise and glory. Nothing but what is of God will stand. The stony-ground hearers will be made manifest - the love of many will wax cold.
I frequently said that night, and often since, now shall the awful sight of a false Christ be seen on this earth, and nothing but the living Christ in us can detect this awful attempt of the enemy to deceive - for it is with all deceivableness of unrighteousness he will work - he will have a counterpart for every part of God's truth, and an imitation for every work of the Spirit. The Spirit must and will be poured out on the church, that she may be purified and filled with God - and just in proportion as the Spirit of God works, so will he - when our Lord anoints men with power, so will he. This is particularly the nature of the trial, through which those are to pass who will be counted worthy to stand before the Son of man. There will he outward trial too, but 'tis principally temptation. It is brought on by the outpouring of the Spirit, and will just increase in proportion as the Spirit is poured out. The trial of the Church is from Antichrist. It is by being filled with the Spirit that we shall be kept. I frequently said, Oh be filled with the Spirit - have the light of God in you, that you may detect Satan - be full of eyes within -be clay in the hands of the potter -submit to be filled, filled with God. This will build the temple. It is not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord. This will fit us to enter into the marriage supper of the Lamb. I saw it to be the will of God that all should be filled. But what hindered the real life of God from being received by his people, was their turning from Jesus, who is the way to the Father. They were not entering in by the door. For he is faithful who hath said, by me if any man enters in he shall find pasture. They were bypassing the cross, through which every drop of the Spirit of God flows to us. All power that comes not through the blood of Christ is not of God.
When I say, they are looking from the cross, I feel that there is much in it - they turn from the blood of the Lamb, by which we overcome, and in which our robes are washed and made white. There are low views of God's holiness, and a ceasing to condemn sin in the flesh, and a looking from him who humbled himself, and made himself of no reputation. Oh! it is needed, much needed at present, a leading back to the cross. I saw that night, and often since, that there will be an outpouring of the Spirit on the body, such as has not been, a baptism of fire, that all the dross may be put away. Oh there must and will be such an indwelling of the living God as has not been - the servants of God sealed in their foreheads - great conformity to Jesus - his holy holy image seen in his people - just the bride made comely by his comeliness put upon her. This is what we are at present made to pray much for, that speedily we may all be made ready to meet our Lord in the air - and it will be. Jesus wants his bride. His desire is toward us. He that shall come, will come, and will not tarry. Amen and Amen Even so come Lord Jesus.
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Yes, in the past i have read her prophecies, when doing a study on the pre-trib rapture. While she has some good things to say, I never base my walk with the Lord on what any one who calls themselves a prophet has to say. I always hold up what they say to the light of the gospel. I have found that while prophets have their place, nothing replaces the written Word of God. That I trust 100%. I trust also what the Lord speaks to my heart, I have never found him to be wrong even once. Amen
ReplyDeleteseed sower ,
ReplyDeletethank you for being the catalyst for me to do a google search on McDonald.
I found this web site and helped me to get my first video up.
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That's something you had mentioned to me earlier and now finally i figured it out.
Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks ?
seed sower ,
ReplyDeleteI never got your and walters message at my email ,only found it at the blog so I'm late in responding to it.
you wrote
if nuclear bombs drop how we gonna leave- sprout wings???
The Lord put it on my heart many years ago to get out of big city Orlando and he provided a way and a place.
He's leadinf and I'm listening and the desire of my heart is to be in Jewusalem rather than incinerated.
I believe the Lord will make the way and if not then, I'll be back there to my most favorite city in the world soon enough.
What is the desire of your heart ?
Let Jerusalem come to your mind.
Walter wrote;
On the subject of we believers getting up, and 'going to Jerusalem', is this scriptural Marcel?
Yes ,yes it is ,you'll find it in Jeremiah .You who escape, Let Jerusalem come to your mind.
Zion ,Jesus reigns in Zion and this is where His throne and Kingdom is established.
On the Prophetic conference,
Don't hit download, click play
Benjamin is #3
VINCENT AND HIS WIFE ALSO HAVE A GREAT MESSAGE ALONG WITH MATTHEW STEPHENS.
I heard him yesterday with Michael Boldea on spirit 1 radio.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem Isaiah 2:3
ReplyDeleteYe that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
Jeremiah 51:50
The Lord has chosen only one nation and we had better be grafted in to the commonwealth of Israel. Ephesiahs 2:12
That's the Word of God !
The Tanakh does not mention the N.T. The people that believe in the sacrifice of a human son are Baal worshippers, according to scripture in the Tanakh. The people that are already dead that believe this false doctrine will not be raised from the dead. They have already received the curse, Eternal death, YHVH is a Mighty-One of Justice, it would not be justice to be brought back and destroyed again. I believe there is a hell, it is the grave, where the dead are put to rot away.
ReplyDeleteDavid will be the only ruler when Judah and Israel reunite !
ReplyDeleteEze 37:12 Therefore prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith YHVH: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O my people; and I will bring you into the land of Jacob.
Eze 37:13 And ye shall know that I am YHVH, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, O my people.
Eze 37:14 And I will put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and ye shall know that I, YHVH, have spoken it and performed it, saith YHVH.
Eze 37:15 The word of YHVH came again unto me, saying,
Eze 37:16 And thou, son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
Eze 37:17 and join them for thee one to another into one stick, that they may become one in thy hand.
Eze 37:18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not show us what thou meanest by these?
Eze 37:19 say unto them, Thus saith YHVH: Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his companions; and I will put them with it, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in my hand.
Eze 37:20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thy hand before their eyes.
Eze 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith YHVH: IsBehold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, whither they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: (This is future )
Eze 37:22 and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all;
Eze 37:23 neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them out of all their dwelling-places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their Mighty-One.
Eze 37:24 And my servant David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in mine ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children's children, for ever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever.
Eze 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; ( JER.31:31-34 ) it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
Eze 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them; and I will be their Husband, and they shall be my people.
Eze 37:28 And the nations shall know that I am YHVH ….
Contrary to what you have been taught, our Fathers word says David will be the only King in the Kingdom when the tribes of Judah and the ten tribes of Jacob reunite in the future ! Please read Hosea 3:5, Ex.4;22, Jer.30:9 very carefully !
What's the bets you don't publish this? Just like some of the other e-mails I've sent. You must feel threatned!
Well the Lord has not led me to depart, nor told me to depart from america. If I am to be incenerated then I will be with the Lord before you, and in a much better place. That is after all what we all should be yearning for...to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.... and if it is good enough for his disciples to yearn to go to be with Him then its good enough for me....it is my hearts desire to be in the presence of The Lord...Amen
ReplyDeleteanon ,
ReplyDeletei find it fascinating that you don't even have the spine to leave your name with what you have written.
Don't crouch behind anonominity Stand up.
Marcel, regards the scripture you cited supporting, a call for us to travel to Israel....
ReplyDeleteIsaiah 2:3
Jeremiah 51:50
Ephesians 2:12
Isaiah is talking of '.... in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house **shall be** established'.
It has not been established yet Marcel, it is yet to come.
Men rule in Jerusalem today.
Read verse 2 also.
Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
You say Jeremiah is speaking of a call for believers [Jews] who escape Babylon's fall, to go to Jerusalem?
It could be, but this interpretation is not conclusive, and this message is not explicit.
It could just be a call for those Jews who escaped the sword [when Babylon falls], that where-ever they may afterward find themselves, to '....remember the LORD **afar off**, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.'
Jeremiah 51:50
Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
Couldn't Jeremiah 51:50 just be a call, NOT TO FORGET Jerusalem ?...
e.g. as in.....
Psalms 137:1
¶By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.
4 How shall we sing the LORD'S song in a strange land?
5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
Again, Ephesians, is talking of non-believers, when they were *before*, and without God, 'at that time ye were without Christ'....'But *now* in Christ Jesus.......are made nigh by the blood of Christ.'.....
We '...are made nigh by the blood of Christ.'
Ephesians 2:11
¶Wherefore remember, that ye being ***in time past*** Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Marcel, i feel sure that our LORD, the Holy One of Israel, is standing with Israel, and her people, and is well able to bring about all things determined for that place.
But Marcel, if you feel you are called by the spirit of our LORD to do this, to travel Israel / Jerusalem, then, yes.
You are correct to follow that urging from our LORD.
Isaiah 62:6
¶I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
It's easy to pick out a verse or two or 14 to fit into your small religious box.
ReplyDeleteI have just a few scriptures that you religiously ignore.
I've got hundreds more but want to hear from you on these below.
When Moshe asked God who he would tell Pharoah had sent him,God told him ,I am.
(I will be what I will be)
Your telling God who and what He is is the height of presumption and arrogance.
A good Jew like yourself knows full well Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man in our image is PLURAL",so stop telling God what He is and stop ignoring the word of God you do not like.
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deut 6:4
Echad here is plural in Hebrew ,not singular.
Who did Joshua worship ?
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. Joshua 5
David understood what you do not.
and this first verse of Psalm 110 proves it is not David
who sits on the throne as you said.
Are you humble enough to admit you are wrong or full of vain religious pride ?
I am not going to argue God's word here with you ,so if this is what you are looking for instead of the truth ,please don't waste my time or yours.
[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psalm 110:1
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psalm 2:7
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.Psalm 2:12
Who did the house of David pierce ?
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn
In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Zechariah 12:10-12
Please stop putting God in your small religion box.
He does not fit.
Join with Moshe and let God be what He WILL BE.
For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
Isaiah 2:12
Walter wrote :
ReplyDeleteIsaiah is talking of '.... in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house **shall be** established'.
It has not been established yet Marcel, it is yet to come.
Men rule in Jerusalem today.
So are you going to wait and change your mind to agree with it then ?
You seem to look for every excuse not to believe it ?
Jerusalem is Jerusalem, is it ,like it or not !
Walter wrote ;
You say Jeremiah is speaking of a call for believers [Jews] who escape Babylon's fall, to go to Jerusalem?
It could be, but this interpretation is not conclusive, and this message is not explicit.
Couldn't Jeremiah 51:50 just be a call, NOT TO FORGET Jerusalem ?...
Walter,
Your country is obliterated and unihabitable after God's great destruction.
I think any survivor will be past just 'not forgetting' JerusalEm but headed there if Jesus reigns in his heart.
It could be ,it could be ,it could be you are looking for any way to disprove what the scripture is clearl saying ?
Jeremiah 23;20 c does it speak to you ?
But Marcel, if you feel you are called by the spirit of our LORD to do this, to travel Israel / Jerusalem, then, yes.
You are correct to follow that urging from our LORD.
I don't understand how anyone would not want to be where Jesus is ?
He only has chosen one nation and that is Israel.
Jesus is omni present and dwells in the hearts of His chosen ones by His Holy Spirit, He does not dwell in the land of Israel alone...Amen..we don't have to travel to be in His presence, He is with me now...Amen..
ReplyDeleteMarcel said....
ReplyDelete".......I don't understand how anyone would not want to be where Jesus is ?....."
So Jesus is in Israel???
And i reply,
Matthew 24:26
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
and as a seed sower reminds us...
'where Jesus is ?',
2 Corinthians 5:6
Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
and....
Colossians 3:1
¶If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Amos 5:4
¶For thus saith the LORD unto the house of Israel, Seek ye me, and ye shall live:
5 But seek not Bethel, nor enter into Gilgal, and pass not to Beersheba: for Gilgal shall surely go into captivity, and Bethel shall come to nought.
6 Seek the LORD, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Bethel.
Seek the LORD, where?
John 4:24
God is a Spirit:
John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
"I receive not honour from men." !!
Matthew 6:32
(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Psalms 51:16
For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.
19 Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar.
Shalom, have a good trip Marcel.
Marcel,
ReplyDeleteAs i said earlier, if you truly feel moved, that you feel that you should relocate to Israel, then you should.
No matter what other people say.
Being led by the spirit, what this is about.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete".......Jesus aint coming either! The God of Jacob and David is the one coming and David will be raised from the dead and will be King over Israel. Come on guys try to interpret scriptuer correctly!........."
".......David will be the only ruler when Judah and Israel reunite ! ......."
Jesus 'aint' coming.
And we Christians should interpret scripture correctly!
Anonymous, that is *very* good advice [about interpreting scripture].
Take a look in a mirror sometime!
And study closely, the 5 books of Moses.
John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
'Anonymous' Moses will accuse you, and your brothers, because Moses knew of our LORD, and prophesied of his coming......
John 5:45
Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
I am surprised how easily you missed what I was saying.
ReplyDeleteJesus is not returning to Washington or any other physical location on eart to rule.
He's going to rule from Jerusalem.
Maybe I shouldn't be surprised that you both missed this ?
I do believe we are at the last of the last days and Jesus ,the Lord of Armies is about to defend Jerusalem,Israel from the armies that will soon compass her.
Your vision is to stay put,mine is to see the Lord vanquish His enemies and help in the clean up.
Go for your vision because where there is no vision,only religion ,the people perish.
After the Lord has wiped out Israel's enemies I would love to be there to help bury the dead .
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.
And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
Ezekiel 39
"a seed sower said...
ReplyDeleteWell the Lord has not led me to depart, nor told me to depart from america. If I am to be incenerated then I will be with the Lord before you, and in a much better place. That is after all what we all should be yearning for...to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.... and if it is good enough for his disciples to yearn to go to be with Him then its good enough for me....it is my hearts desire to be in the presence of The Lord...Amen"
Very dangerous thinking in light of the following scriptures:
Jeremiah 50:8 "Move from the midst of Babylon, Go out of the land of the Chaldeans; And be like the rams before the flocks.
Jeremiah 51:6 Flee from the midst of Babylon, And every one save his life! Do not be cut off in her iniquity, For this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; He shall recompense her.
Jeremiah 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, But she is not healed. Forsake her, and let us go everyone to his own country; For her judgment reaches to heaven and is lifted up to the skies.
Jeremiah 51:45 "My people, go out of the midst of her! And let everyone deliver himself from the fierce anger of the Lord.
Jeremiah 51:50 You who have escaped the sword, Get away! Do not stand still! Remember the Lord afar off, And let Jerusalem come to your mind.
as well as the NT warning if we stay in Mystery Babylon we will share her sin and receive her plagues....
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
So yes, the Lord has told each and every one of us that when the call comes to "come out" we had better come out.
Dying here in disobedience to The Lord will likely cost us loss of eternal life.
"Dying here in disobedience to The Lord will likely cost us loss of eternal life."
ReplyDeleteJames ,I think you need to be more careful and let the Lord be the judge of that.
Not everyone of God's people are going up to Zion and that does not make them damned.
We get what we settle for and for some it's incineration ,not necessarily hell.
Certainly we can agree that those who stay will share in Babylons sins and receive of her plagues.
ReplyDeleteThat cant be a good thing....
Considering the sins of Babylon at that time will have reached into heaven, I want no part in sharing of them.
The only other option according to scripture is being delivered to satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved.
1 Corinthians 5:5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
I certainly want no part in being delivered to satan so I guess I will be leaving.
James ,Have you been to Israel ?
ReplyDeleteThere is no possible way every Christian could fit in such a small country.
The reality is ,most of us will be vaporized when the surprise attack red star missiles hit our cities.
It's going to come as a surprise ,a snare as did the fall of Babylon while they were having a party.
The handwriting is already on our wall here.
I might be living too close to Central Command in Tampa ,a sure target as is Jacksonville and 1000's of outher cities.
Only the Lord will enable us to escape.
I've signed up to be on the list.
No, haven't been yet...
ReplyDeleteBut God willing.
An important thing to note is that not everyone who considers themselves a Christian is considered by God to be a Christian.
Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
It IS Gods will that we leave when the call comes. He said so numerous times in Jeremiah and once in Revealation.
To disobey is sin. To disobey is to share in her sins.
To obey is better than sacrifice.
1 Samuel 15:22,23 22 So Samuel said: "Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, As in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams. 23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, He also has rejected you from being king."
And besides, The Word tells us to go to "our own country", not necessarily Israel.
ReplyDeleteJeremiah 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, But she is not healed. Forsake her, and let us go everyone to his own country; For her judgment reaches to heaven and is lifted up to the skies.
The Word also tells us to "let Jerusalem come to you mind". That doesn't mean we HAVE to go there. We will be caught up to meet the Lord over Jerusalem when he comes.
Jeremiah 51:50 You who have escaped the sword, Get away! Do not stand still! Remember the Lord afar off, And let Jerusalem come to your mind.
This verse seems to be speaking of the time following Babylons primary destruction by fire but before the invasion force arrives.
I live in a marked city, the seat of child sacarific Wichita, Kansas, but I trust my life to the Lord who has never forsaken me, ever. I am not in a position to flee any where, so I have to trust my life to the Lord.
ReplyDeleteHe has in the last 3 years, moved 3 of my dearest friends out of state, and just in the last 2 weeks he has moved my daughter her husband and her 3 boys out of state. I still have a husband, a son and wife and 3 girls in this city.
I feel disaster about to approach this city and state, and i am not attempting to be prophetic by the way, just reality, and I am sure there are others who feel the same, but we must all put our trust in the Most High God.
Amen
amen !
ReplyDeleteBut please understand that I'm not trying to condemn anyone to hell.
ReplyDeletea seed sower originally stated:
"Well the Lord has not led me to depart, nor told me to depart from america......"
And I'm saying the Word absolutely has told us to depart from Mystery Babylon when the call comes.
What the Word states is what we are to base our faith on, not an audible voice. Especially if it contradicts the written Word.
1 Corinthians 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
When tempted by the devil, Jesus did not say, "I heard that it was said." but rather He said, "It is written."
We are free at any time to "judge ourselves unworthy of everlasting life" by giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, deceiving ourselves by being hearers and not doers of The Word, living according to the flesh or practicing the works of the flesh.
The scripture, which cannot be broken, states:
Ac 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, "It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles.
To reject the Word of God is to "judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life" as our brethren before us testified.
A clue as to when the call is coming is here:
Jeremiah 51:46 And lest your heart faint, And you fear for the rumor that will be heard in the land (A rumor will come one year, And after that, in another year A rumor will come, And violence in the land, Ruler against ruler),
May the Lord show us all what this rumor is.
"I feel disaster about to approach this city and state, and i am not attempting to be prophetic by the way, just reality, and I am sure there are others who feel the same, but we must all put our trust in the Most High God.
ReplyDeleteAmen"
Helen,
Faith is better than location.
I just finished listening to a MESSAGE from a pastor in Singapore
and you're in good hands in the midst of the storm.
The disciples woke up Jesus who was sleeping comfortabally in the back of the boat because they were in panic and forgot who was with them.
He reminded them ,wow did He remind them.
May He remind us always.
Reading back through my comments I find that sometimes it is very hard to state the truth without coming across as judging or condemning.
ReplyDeleteJesus said:
John 12:47,48 47 And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
May we all have the mind of Christ.
And also let us pray that The Lord will make a way for ALL of us to come out when the time comes.
Hebrews 7:25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Oklahoma City, Wichita, Topeka, Omaha, Des Moines and Minneapolis are amongst the cities being threatened by the dangerous severe weather.
ReplyDeletefrom accu weather today.
Sounds like this nation is already at war and our Enemy is targeting our cities.
a seed sower said,
ReplyDelete"......I feel disaster about to approach this city and state, and i am not attempting to be prophetic by the way, just reality, and I am sure there are others who feel the same, but we must all put our trust in the Most High God......."
A seed sower, these are the right words you have used...
'....we must all put our trust in the Most High God.'
A seed sower, may our LORD bless you greatly, and gather you to himself, at his coming.
As i think you know already, a seed sower, this flesh, is less than nothing.
We are all, only here for a short time.
We come here, and we all learn of 'the world', we learn of its folly, and cruelty, its lies.
Many of us are 'taken in' by this world, it seduces many with its lies and promises.
But we [many] eventually see a LIGHT and a TRUTH [in our lives], not of this world.
Some, many, seek out that LIGHT and that TRUTH.
And we are meant to, walk that spiritual journey, on our 'way back home'.
Because as you have come to know a seed sower, this is not our home.
We are meant to learn, that this world, and what it offers is folly and falsehood.
And all things in this flesh reflect that folly and falsehood.
In our journey here, we find our LORD's message and we choose to wait upon HIM, because we too love his TRUTH, and his LIGHT.
Always trust in our LORD a seed sower.
HE is FAITHFUL and TRUE, as you know already, because he has witnessed this to your own heart, with his spirit.
You have rejected this world, because you seek HIM, and seek his TRUTH, and seek his RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Our LORD is the LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Keep the faith , and search his word for truth, strength in these times that will try all men.
wasn't it the guy from new wine ministries who made a prophesy a while back about something happening around passover. i don't rememeber that it came to pass.why are they still given space when they prophesy falsely. they seem to be part of the kingdom now manifest sons movement. false doctrine false prophesy dave c in ct
ReplyDeleteI went back and check after I had posted it on my blog.
ReplyDeleteIt was a maybe not a prophecy.
I don't hear manifest sons ,just what Daniel says about hte saint in these last day's.
Did you take the time to listen to the message I linked to ?
I didn't link to Matthew Stephens because I am not convinced ??
I want the Lord to answer me if it so.
You do see that things have ratcheted up and are now moving forward faster ?
The whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth over the heartland of America.
Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked. Jeremiah 23:19
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. Jeremiah 25:32
Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked Jeremiah 30:23
Vincent and his wife spoke and it was good but I chose to only recommend Benjamin's message.
Can you get back to me on what you found ?
Who will do exploits in this dark time? It is the manifested sons of God. It is the governmental body of Christ establishing kingdom authority all over the world.
ReplyDeletethis was taken from the message given by vincent. he never did say thus says the LORD but it does read as if he was giving a prophecy. i will have to listen to message by barauch. but if he should be watchful of the pulpits he shares.for instance if someone was to share a platform with benny hinn his message would be comprimised just by the fact that he was together with a false prophet. elijah did not share a platform with the prophets of baal he made his own opposed to them. i will gladly listen to message and give my humble opinion. GOD BLESS and keep you brother. davec in ct
Thanks dave c .
ReplyDeleteThere is much that is false and deception today and we must keep our eyes on Jesus.
Benjamin mentioned Micah 7 about not trusting a neighbor,ect.treacherous betrayal ahead .
The LORD HAS SHOWN ME THE SAME WORD LATE LAST YEAR.
I need to fast and pray more.
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I'm listening to RickWiles at tru news.com now who just said 'we are true Israel' .He has a simering hatred for physical Israel ,but other than that he preaches Jesus and the gospel of the kingdom.
How sad he does not hear Romans 11: 18-22.
we all must.we are in the birth bpangs if you ask me but every day the picture comes more and more into focus.i can not be dogmatic about how the last days will unfold i am only dogmatic in that the LORD will return.i do feel it is very soon.but i am sure that the LORD will surprise us all.at h
ReplyDeleteHIS first coming the jews could not reconcile seeming contradictions between messiah son of joseph and messiah son of david.we obviously know now how those uestions were answered. i wait to seee how the LoRD will reconcile the arguements between pre mid post tribulation teachings. i am told to look up when i see these things so i am looking up and not out.GOD BLESS brother we are a day closer and the picture becomes clearer. davec in ct
Amen !
ReplyDeleteAs Daniel prophesied ,the Lord is giving us more wisdom and understanding,understanding which Daniel didn't even have at the time.