more answered prayersOver the years of listening to the angry, loud arrogant threats of Hamas to wipe out Israel, it is they who are wiped out.
Granted ,it's only a few hundred who are dead but the remainder are in hiding in shock and fear.
The loudmouth, always threatening leader of Hamas, Ismail Haneyih is in hiding ,probally wearing a dress and others find new ways to hide.
Hamas police kept a low profile, wearing jackets over their dark blue uniforms and walking close to walls, hoping to evade the detection by Israeli pilots.
(it's refreshing to see the fear and terror they inflicted on Israel now full blown in Hamas.They reap a large serving of what they have been dishing out for so long)
Minutes after the strike, Hamas police defiantly planted the movement's green flag in the rubble.
(Hamas and rubble go hand in hand,it's only fitting that their flag is set in rubble)
A crowd of anti-Israel protesters in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul became a target for a homicide bomber on a bicycle.
(A good example of Islam in action,moslems protesting Israel's war on Hamas murdered by fellow moslem )
live by the sword,die by the sword !
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Obadiah 1:15 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done (to Israel), it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head. (18) And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it. (19) And they of the south shall possess the mount of Esau; and they of the plain the Philistines: and they shall possess the fields of Ephraim, and the fields of Samaria: and Benjamin shall possess Gilead.
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This is just my opinion.
I think this war will get out of hand and spread .
Iran will make sure of this.
Many Arab countries outraged that a once neutered and restrained Israel has arisen a fierce lion and defeated another Arab army(Hamas is Iran's proxy army in Gaza) ?
Many in the Arab world have heard the fatwa call to fight against Israel her interests and those countries like the U.S. who support Israel.
The angry Moslems of Lybia,Turkey ,Jordan,Syria,Iran,Iraq,Saudi Arabia,Egypt bear watching.
This could get out of hand quite easily and fast.The devil knows his time is short and he will fan the flames of revenge and hate.
Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
ReplyDeleteLuke 6:27 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
If you truly love moslems you will warn them to flee the evil lie of Islam.
ReplyDeleteToday I warned a number of molsems to flee (death) Islam and seek (life) the Lord Jesus by way of youtube.
How many have you warned this past year James ?
When you do likewise you can preach to me about love.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
John 15:13
Marcel,
ReplyDeleteThe truth is the truth regardless of whether I have preached to Muslims this year or not.
I speak to those in forums on a regular basis concerning false apostles, false brethren and false doctrine in hopes they will return to the truth or not be decieved if they haven't been already.
And 2 times this year it has gotten me banned.
It is not good to glory in seeing our enemies enter eternity damned.
Proverbs 24:17-18 17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; 18 Lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him, And He turn away His wrath from him.
And besides, I didn't preach it, Jesus did.
ReplyDeleteJames ,
ReplyDeleteI rejoice for Israel and if you do not you are an imposter and not my brother.
You are scripture wise and I assume you understand the times we are living in ?
The scribes were also well versed and knew the scripture well but missed the time of their visitation.
The time of the Gentiles is about over and God's agenda is centered with Israel now as He gathers the nations for their judgment.
You will have to learn to rightly divide the word of God now.
The battles of Israel's past with Sampson,King David,Jehoshaphat,Gideon and a host of God given victories against His enemies are no longer past but now.
Will you stand with Israel or on the sidelines.
There are no sidlines or middle ground when it comes to Israel and the nations.
Either you stand with Israel or with Satan.
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I found this today written by a David Custis Kimball.
"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." Mt4:7.9 Israel tried to give Gaza, its rightful land to Palestinians for peace, not to be worshiped .. they got missiles, not even a thank you for the food, medicine and fuel because it was received into an empty void of their idleness except as it comes to war, hate and fear. Is it that Islamists have been to that desert and when tempted bowed down to Satan... all the while pretending to worship the Lord, your G-d, and serve him only. It is these Islamists who worship war ... satan's playground where evil can be harvested into dim hot light.
It is a truly a fight for goodness and truth's survival. Give them Israel's Gaza and bury them there. I hope Jesus's words will resonate to both Jew and Christian .. there is no cheek to turn, no loving enemies when that enemy worships hate, deceit and destruction ... because they have had that and have shown any kindness will be used to build a weapon to destroy. Stay safe ... brave ... and strong.
God will defend Israel. There is no call on ANYONE in the body of Christ to do anything but preach the gospel and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
ReplyDeleteWe do NOT war according to the flesh.
2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
Christ told Pilate and Peter these things.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here."
Matthew 26:52 But Jesus said to him, "Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
John 18:11 So Jesus said to Peter, "Put your sword into the sheath. Shall I not drink the cup which My Father has given Me?"
I rest in the hope that Daniel gave Gods children.
Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.
We are not to regard anyone after the flesh.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.
Does the government of Israel have an obligation to defend it's citizens?
Of course.
But we are not to partake of it as Christians.
Our call is to preach the gospel with signs following and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
May the Fathers kingdom come, His will be done.
I can see you as a Christian in Hitlers Germany as Jews were led off to slaughter.
ReplyDelete'But we are not to partake of it as Christians.'
I know your flavor of 'christian'
A home full of Jewissh women and children is being besieged by blood thirsty killers (moslems) and your response is ;
'But we are not to partake of it as Christians.'
The house of Israel is being beseiged by the whole world and thats all you have to say.
I strongly disagree according to God's word which you ignore.
You are a disappointment and I would rather stand with those who stand with Israel in deed more than just word.
"Then the clans of Judah will say in their hearts, 'A strong support for us are the inhabitants of Jerusalem through the LORD of hosts, their God.'
"In that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot among pieces of wood and a flaming torch among sheaves, so they will consume on the right hand and on the left all the surrounding peoples, while the inhabitants of Jerusalem again dwell on their own sites in Jerusalem.
"The LORD also will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem will not be magnified above Judah.
"In that day the LORD will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the one who is feeble among them in that day will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 "And in that day I will set about to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10 "I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.
I don't see you anywhere in this scripture ?
You've made sure of that.
'But we are not to partake of it as Christians.'
That is false teaching, James.
Marcel,
ReplyDeleteWe are accounted lambs for the slaughter and we will be completely shattered by the time The Lord returns.
I stand with Israel as much as The Lord requires me to according to His Word, not mans.
If my Jewish friends were being persecuted, I would hide them just as Corrie Ten Boom did.
If my Jewish son-in-law needed protection, I would surely come to his aid. But not with arms.
Are you suggesting that we take up swords?
I submit to you that taking up swords is false teaching according to the Word of God.
'I submit to you that taking up swords is false teaching according to the Word of God.'
ReplyDeleteSo how come I have never read anything from you rebuking Christians who wear the U.S. military uniform ?
Have you ever taken a stand against this ?
You do realize that Israel's self defense war against Hamas is a righteous war unlike the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq half way across the globe.
Do you see your hypocrisy ?
I take a stand against the soldiers of Babylon on a regular basis as does my broher Glenn who posts here.
ReplyDeleteThere is no righteous war other than the one when Jesus Christ himself returns in power and great glory and destroys the enemies of the church and Israel.
And it's not for their sake, but for His holy name's sake that He comes to their defense.
Ezekiel 36:22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'Thus says the Lord God: "I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name's sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went.
In the mean time the church is to preach the gospel to Jew and Gentile alike and make disciples.
'In the mean time the church is to preach the gospel to Jew and Gentile alike and make disciples'
ReplyDeleteNo,the church is to do much more than that.
The Roman Centurion was commended by Jesus for his great faith and Jesus never once told him to turn in his sword and retire.
You selectivly left out this verse
Jesus word to His followers.
And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
Luke 22:36
Marcel,
ReplyDeleteYou're not rightly dividing the Word of truth.
David said,
Psalm 94:1 O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongs-- O God, to whom vengeance belongs, shine forth!
Isaiah said,
Isaiah 1:24 Therefore the Lord says, The Lord of hosts, the Mighty One of Israel, "Ah, I will rid Myself of My adversaries, And take vengeance on My enemies.
Isaiah 34:8 For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, The year of recompense for the cause of Zion.
Isaiah 35:4 Say to those who are fearful-hearted, "Be strong, do not fear! Behold, your God will come with vengeance, With the recompense of God; He will come and save you."
Jeremiah said,
Jeremiah 46:10 For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts, A day of vengeance, That He may avenge Himself on His adversaries. The sword shall devour; It shall be satiated and made drunk with their blood; For the Lord God of hosts has a sacrifice In the north country by the River Euphrates.
And it is God alone who uses the ten horns to repay Babylon.
Jeremiah 50:15 Shout against her all around; She has given her hand, Her foundations have fallen, Her walls are thrown down; For it is the vengeance of the Lord. Take vengeance on her. As she has done, so do to her.
Jeremiah 50:28 The voice of those who flee and escape from the land of Babylon Declares in Zion the vengeance of the Lord our God, The vengeance of His temple.
Jeremiah 51:6 Flee from the midst of Babylon, And every one save his life! Do not be cut off in her iniquity, For this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; He shall recompense her.
Jeremiah 51:11 Make the arrows bright! Gather the shields! The Lord has raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes. For His plan is against Babylon to destroy it, Because it is the vengeance of the Lord, The vengeance for His temple.
Jeremiah 51:36 Therefore thus says the Lord: "Behold, I will plead your case and take vengeance for you. I will dry up her sea and make her springs dry.
Ezekiel said,
Ezekiel 25:17 I will execute great vengeance on them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I lay My vengeance upon them." ' "
Micah said,
Micah 5:15 And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury On the nations that have not heard."
Nahum said,
Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the Lord avenges; The Lord avenges and is furious. The Lord will take vengeance on His adversaries, And He reserves wrath for His enemies;
Paul said,
Romans 12:19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord.
2 Thessalonians 1:8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 10:30 For we know Him who said, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. And again, "The Lord will judge His people."
Jesus said,
Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
Luke 6:27 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
He also said,
Luke 18:7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them?
Who fights against the nations that come against Israel?
Zechariah 14:3 Then the Lord will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
And also,
ReplyDeleteIf you take up the sword, you will die by the sword.
Revelation 13:10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Daniel 11:14 "Now in those times many shall rise up against the king of the South. Also, violent men of your people shall exalt themselves in fulfillment of the vision, but they shall fall.
Also, violent men of your people shall exalt themselves in fulfillment of the vision, but they shall fall.
"they SHALL fall."
Remember that.
From what you say ,the fact that Israel is defending themselves troubles you.
ReplyDeleteOf course God will fight for Israel when Israel can fight no more.
Until then Israel fights when she is not restrained by evil Babylon and the remainder of the nations who seek her destruction.
Your twisted reasoning puts Israel at fault for having an army.
Shame on you.
You completely ignored the scripture I left,Jesus' own word to buy a sword and His failure to get the Roman Centurion to conform to your theology.
We're not going to get anywhere with this.
One thing I am sure of is if I were under attack ,you would be no help but a hinderance.
I wonder what
your twist and spin on this scripture from Daniel is ?
You throw this scripture in that does not apply to Israel defending themselves.
You are completley out of line.
remember that !
It seems like it is to put Israel at fault for having an army to defend themselves from those who seek their extermination.
Daniel 11:14 "Now in those times many shall rise up against the king of the South. Also, violent men of your people shall exalt themselves in fulfillment of the vision, but they shall fall.
Also, violent men of your people shall exalt themselves in fulfillment of the vision, but they shall fall.
This has nothing to do with Israel defending themselves,
nice try ,but no cigar.
I didn't say the GOVERNMENT of Israel shouldn't defend itself.
ReplyDeleteI DID say as Christians, we shouldn't be involved in fighting in the flesh.
As I said in my 4th post above:
"Does the government of Israel have an obligation to defend it's citizens?
Of course."
And the scripture in Daniel has to do with dominionists like Rick Joyner and Co. in the NAR that think they should take up arms and fight their enemies.
You need to stay away from the leaven of people like Steve Quayle and Rick Wiles. It is corrupting you.
And Luke 22:36 has NOTHING to do about defending ourselves.
If you notice, Jesus later told Peter that "those who live by the sword will die by the sword."
22:49 When those around Him saw what was going to happen, they said to Him, "Lord, shall we strike with the sword?"
Peter didn't even wait for an answer from The Lord before he struck.
But if you read the parallel account in Matthew, Jesus rebukes Peter.
Matthew 26:52 52 But Jesus said to him, "Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. 53 Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels? 54 How then could the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must happen thus?"
As you see, Jesus didn't need Peter's itty bitty sword.
He could have called more than twelve legions of angels to rescue Him.
That's more than 72,000 angels.
More than enough to kill every man, woman and child on the planet.
But then He wouldn't have died and all of us would be still in our sins and subject to the lake of fire forever and ever.
Here is the Lord's heart on the matter.
Luke 9:54-56 54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?" 55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them."
For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them.
Let the government of Israel fight their own battles and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
While I see and agree with much of what you are saying there is a 'serious' problem.
ReplyDeleteYou wrote ;
'Let the government of Israel fight their own battles and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.'
And yet the whole world works united to restrain Israel from doing so ........and you are silent,indifferent,never raising a protest.
By God's grace unlike you I will be zealous for Zion's sake at this late hour.
I may never return to Israel,but I might and I would not sit back but even join the IDF if so led to by the Lord.
As a Christian I have only one country, Israel.
Ephesisns 2:12
Physical Israel cannot be seperated from spiritual Israel as so many apostacized,americanized kingdom now, psuedo Christians do.
God reminds us often how David with his sword and many wars was a man after His own heart.
The only time David got into serious trouble was with another man's wife while he should have been out fighting,leading the army with his sword.
David who it seems lived by the sword did not die by the sword.
The truth is that David with his sword lived for the Lord.
I don't have any doubt that many Christians who have a love for Israel given to them by Jesus will stand with Israel not just in prayer and fasting but in defense.
To do any less would expose the shallow emptiness of ones faith.
To understand and rightly divide God's word you must understand that The Lord is the Lord of Hosts ,the Lord of Armies.
Whenever Israel was led by the Lord against their enemies they won the battle.
In Joshua 5 the head of Israe's army Joshua meets Jesus before Israel attacks and destroys Jericho.
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy. And Joshua did so.Joshua 5 :13
Jesus is the Captain of Armies who fights for Israel and with His sword will kill many millions of Israel's enemies.
The Lamb is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and He now ,TODAY fights for Israel.
As he leads I follow Him and no man.
you wrote;
'You need to stay away from the leaven of people like Steve Quayle and Rick Wiles. It is corrupting you.'
What you assume you know is false.
You don't seem to hear or listen well.
Long ago I told you of Ricks hate for Israel and the Jews so he is the last one I would even remotly consider to heed.
I stopped listening to the wolf in religious garb long ago.
Neither do I follow Steve Q.
He has some good news stories ,but his goldfever and the Hawk are a problem and he's not enough a lover of Zion like yourself for me to take him too seriously.
I would hope that you could see with your spiritual eyes that the line of seperation among Christians is growing ever wider when it comes to Israel and this is God's doing.
Israel is God's plumb line ,it has always been.
If you are lukewarm when it comes to Israel you are lukewarm with Jesus and will not make it.
James,
ReplyDeleteYou left out Wayne Watson another believer with keen insight but serious error(leaven) when it comes to Rome and other pecularities.
His positve comments towards Rome and silence towards Israel tells me where he is headed and leading his flock.
The fact that he is mediocre, or even possibly against Israel (by his silence) tells me all I ned to know about this one.
This is not the time to remain silent when it comes to Israel.
Lukewarm has nothing to do with whether we would take up arms and fight with Israel.
ReplyDeleteLukewarm has EVERYTHING to do whether we love The Lord our God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength and our neighbor as ourselves.... or not.
Jesus commands us to NOT avenge ourselves and nothing will convince me otherwise.
Hebrews 13:14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come.
I seek the city to come, the New Jerusalem.
Revelation 21:2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
As far as Watson, do you mean Mark Watson?
If so, I haven't had him in my favorites for months because of his shortsightedness in regards to Babylonian politics and his lukewarm love affair with Rome...
He has what I've said before: Babnesia.
Hopefully he can be cured of it. Pray for him.
I just spoke with one of my Jewish friends this morning about the Lord.
He is carried about by Dan Brown's fairy tales and new age garbagio like "life force" beliefs that sound like Star Wars....
I preach the truth to him all the time and he resists it vehemently.
I also keep telling him to return to the God of his fathers and he just doesn't believe.
And I will continue to pray for him.
God is using Israel to gather the nations against it so He can destroy them.
As it is written:
Daniel 2:44,45 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold--the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure."
Revelation 19:15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Isaiah 63:1-6 1 Who is this who comes from Edom, With dyed garments from Bozrah, This One who is glorious in His apparel, Traveling in the greatness of His strength?-- "I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save." 2 Why is Your apparel red, And Your garments like one who treads in the winepress? 3 "I have trodden the winepress alone, And from the peoples no one was with Me. For I have trodden them in My anger, And trampled them in My fury; Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments, And I have stained all My robes. 4 For the day of vengeance is in My heart, And the year of My redeemed has come. 5 I looked, but there was no one to help, And I wondered That there was no one to uphold; Therefore My own arm brought salvation for Me; And My own fury, it sustained Me. 6 I have trodden down the peoples in My anger, Made them drunk in My fury, And brought down their strength to the earth."
There is only One who is worthy to dash the nations in pieces, Jesus Christ.
"I have trodden the winepress alone, And from the peoples no one was with Me."
Rest in The Lord, He is gathering the nations even now.
Lukewarn has everything to do with your stand towards Israel,EVERYTHING.
ReplyDeleteNow you can put words in my mouth and add 'arms' to what I said.
I see Andrew in the same hazy light as Watson related to their silence on Israel.
It matters more than you realize.
you;
'I seek the city to come, the New Jerusalem'
Just where do you think the New Jerusalem is going to land ?
On Mars ?
You're going to have to connect spiritual Israel with natural Israel or end up their enemy.
As for the blind Dan Brown following Jew ,can you imagine the day and the hour and the minute when Jesus take the blinders off which He has placed over their eyes ?
Mars....
ReplyDeleteLOL!
Come on Marcel, do you actually think I don't know that the New Jerusalem is going to land in Israel?
I view Israel exactly as Paul the apostle (A Jew of Jews) views them:
Romans 11:28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.
I do NOT boast against the natural branches and long for the day my friend and son-in-law turn to The Lord.
I do all I can to see that happen.
I was talking to Brother Glenn on the phone and he pointed out something which is true..
ReplyDeleteThe New Jerusalem is going to be on the new earth, not this present one..
Revelation 21:1,2 1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Isaiah also saw this:
Isaiah 65:17-19 17 "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. 18 But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing, And her people a joy. 19 I will rejoice in Jerusalem, And joy in My people; The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her, Nor the voice of crying.
We know Christ will reign for a thousand years on earth from the present Jerusalem...