Monday, October 22, 2007

Sodom & Gomorrah, West

A few weeks ago San Francisco had their annual sexual perversion parade with the blessing and protection of the City and the State of California,but God, His truth and His laws are forbidden,illegal.
How shall a wicked nation as this not burn to the ground ?

Homosexual sex and nudity and other perversions were OPENLY ENGAGED IN ON THE STREETS EVEN IN FRONT OF CHURCHES AND CHILDREN PRESENT.
After seeing the picture from a ministry warning of this evil I knew we have surpassed Sodom and Gomorrah and that God would respond.
Today a quarter of a milion people from the San Diego area have been evacuated from their homes and this is just in San Diego.
We have the Malibu fire,the Slide fire,the Grass fire ,the Witch fire and more popping up by the minute,hour and day.

Big Bear,Lake Arrowhead,Malibu,Escondido,San Diego,Rancho Bernardo,Poway,Forrest Ranch,Lake Hodge,Ramona,Lakeside are some of the communities where hundreds if not thousands have lost their homes to fire.
This will devestate insurance companies and the state's ability to aid so many.
This will go down as the most destructive fire in U.S. history in the cost to the economy and the fires have only begun.
Are possible major earthquake's next for California?
Fire and brimstone are what God rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah because of their open and bold perversion against God.
We are seeeing the beginning of God's judgment on the open perversion and wickedness in America .
Remember ,it is just the beginning and the innocent suffer along with the wicked.
Our leaders blessing of this evil will cost them and the nation a debt they will never be able to cover.
WAKE UP PEOPLE !
Will any repent or just continue blindly to final destruction and judgment ?
It's going to get much,much worse in a short time for this nation because we have done what Israel did before Israel was destroyed.
The blessings come with the cursings in God's book and we have rejected His blessings as a nation.

10 comments:

  1. In my personal reading, I just finished Isaiah last night. In the last chapter alone:

    Isa 66:15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
    Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

    Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

    I could not help but think of the stand that the Governator took a few days ago regarding school policy, banning the terms "Mommy" and "Daddy", etc. It seems a small portion of the fire of Sodom and Gomorrah may indeed be visiting his state!


    Eric

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  2. The wicked put on a show in San Francisco a few weks ago.
    God put on his earth wind and fire show.
    I think the wicked need to know that it's not Mother Nature ,but God sending His warning to His rebellious creation.
    Arnold has his plate full.
    What he does not need is a major Earthquake to deal with now on top of this .
    The leaders are blind and bankrupt and lead the blind to theor destruction. Bush Arnold and the whole lot of them.

    This is another of God's warnings ,not His full fury yet.
    A number of people will hear but the vast majority will not.

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  3. Umm, while I agree what Ahhnold said may not be kosher, I also think God can read a map.

    When God judged Sodom and Gomorrah, He judged Sodom and Gomorrah, not China and Britain.

    I don't think the fires have anything to do with gays, since very few of the people struck were gay. God is not in the habit of judging the innocent for the crimes of the guilty. Life is just fine is SanFran. Beautiful city, no fires reported.

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but if we keep harping on gays as the cause for everything, we'll never truly understand what is going on. God is not obsessed with the sexual perversions of the unsaved.

    When God judged Sodom, the Law wasn't even in place yet. And there was far more going on than homosexuality. They were also murderers and robbers and brutal men. God judged them because there were no righteous men there that He should spare them.

    That said, as we speak, a little girl is probably being raped, men are cheating on their wives, and I'm sure more than one person is buying a hooker or watching porno.

    Do you mean to tell me God is just fine with straight sex, even under those terms, and is simply disgusted with gay sex? Huh?

    Do we worship a God that small minded, that sex sin is just fine as long as it is STRAIGHT SEX? Does that make ANY sense?


    No, God is not that small. MEN are. MEN think it's all about works and not about holiness. If every gay went straight tomorrow, would they be saved as a result? Which comes first, salvation or straightness?

    If a gay man raped a 10 year old girl, is he off the hook because it was straight sex for a change?

    Think about it. God could care less what gays do, because they are UNSAVED. If they go straight, they are still UNSAVED.

    Show me ONE verse where God promises eternal life to any man who simply "goes straight". I'll wait.

    However, I think it has a LOT to do with the upcoming conference to divide Jerusalem.

    Why, at this late stage, do we miss the obvious and focus on the petty? If God wanted to judge gays, He can send a new AIDS plague like THAT. He doesn't need to destroy the homes of straight people and their children.


    We simply make God out to be vindictive and a petty pervert when we say things like this. Sin doesn't begin and end with sexual orientation. Sin is a STATE, not an action.

    ***AF***

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  4. I disagree with you.
    Of course sin is sin and child rapists are just as perverted and an abomination as those who rebel against God's divine order for mankind.

    Of course, plain old sin and rebellion, Hollywood and Jerusalem play into what we are seeing in California along with what Eric mentioned about Homosexualist Arnold's new decree for mommies and daddies.
    But you seem to miss the end result of this rebelliion against God which finally triggers God's judgment.
    When wickedness finally reached it's maturation ,harvest time if you will,God sent the flood in Noah's day.
    The growing strident,forceful homosexual movement which forces it's way on children and churches and the nation is something you seem to minimize ?

    This is more serious than you allude to as I remind you what God says about those who pervert the innocent children.Now it has been institusionalized in schools by the government .
    AND GOD IS SENDING HIS MESSAGE OF WRATH TO THESE EVIL LEADERS AND PERVERTED MEN AND WOMEN.
    It happended in Sodom and Gomorrah and I expect another major earthquake to destroy San Francisco in the not too distant future.
    This time it will send a message to the perverted and wicked across the earth.

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  5. 1 Peter 4:17
    For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    I minimize nothing. What I'm telling you is completely scriptural. He starts with HIS people, because THEY are supposed to know better. The unsaved do not have the Light. We do.

    Do we forget that before it's all over, Satan himself rules the world unchecked thru the Beast? If you think this perversion we see now is bad, you aren't reading your bible...

    Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

    God's judgment does not center on America, it just starts there. And the reason is laid out in Jer 50/51, and gays are NOT mentioned.

    Nor does it focus only on gays. Gays seem to be completely untouched by what is happening, and that is by design, so we know it has NOTHING to do with them. God is not concerned with unsaved sexual habits.

    The CHURCH has chosen to make it an issue, as though there's been NO homosexuality since Sodom and it was just invented here a few years ago. There were no gays in Rome? None in Ancient Greece? No gays anywhere on the planet until America 20th century?

    No, God has bigger issues than unsaved men sleeping with unsaved men. That is not His concern. Will they suddenly be less unsaved if they go 'straight'? No. Show me the verse that says "if thou go straight thou shalt be saved..."

    You're missing what is really at stake by jumping on this bandwagon. Sin does not begin and end with sex. The first sin was NOT a sexual act, if you recall your Gen 3. If we were out BEING SALT AND LIGHT and dealing with real issues we wouldn't have time to obsess over gays.

    God can read a map, and predicting an SF quake is not great exercise in prophecy. It's on a major fault. They been predicting it for decades.

    ***AF***

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  6. I strongly disagree with you and I don't need to repeat again why.
    The Sumatra Tsunami of December o4 killed over a half million people at ease on the coast's of many nations.
    This is in combination with God's judgment which has already long ago started at His Church.
    What the Gov. of Calif. has done is bring God's wrath on this nation starting with Calif.
    We can keep printing more worthless dollars for our bankrupt nation to cover the damages God is infliction on our American Dream ,but it is over,finished.
    Now we see the beginning of sorrow's and perilous times because we have rejected God's law's and blessings as a nation from the leadership on down.
    Now we see the curse of God manifets on America from the top to the bottom.

    You minimize the wickedness of the homosexual perverts who go after the children to indoctrinate them into their evil ways.
    God is not and will do do likewise.

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  7. Sumatra is MUSLIM. Part of Indonesia. How is that judgment on the Church?

    Show me one verse where God punishes parties that have nothing to do with the sin in question.

    The judgment began on Sept 11, which was the catalyst event for the Iraq war and other things. George Bush is part of that judgment. God has long history of raising up evil leaders to judge a nation: Pharoah of Egypt, Jeroboam and Rehoboam in Israel, The Caesars of Rome, etc.

    It has NOTHING to do with gays, marcel, and whether you disagree changes nothing. I do not see Providence, R. I. on fire, do you? Or did you not know that is 'gay central' on the East Coast? Place is doing fine, last I checked.

    God can read a map, and God clearly said He starts with His church. How is ignoring that bringing Him glory?

    You are determined to go your own way, and you are going to wreck your work. So be it. You haven't shown me ONE end time verse that mentions gays. Jer 50/51 does not mention gays, nor does Obadiah, nor does Jer 49, nor does Matt 24. God purposely does NOT mention it because that's NOT why He is judging.

    Ignoring the word is NOT glorifying God, dude. With all that is going on in the world, esp a fallen church, He's got way bigger things to worry about than homosexuals.

    By the way, they are not repenting. Guess why?

    **AF**

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  8. get a grip dude,
    I didn't say moslem sumatra was the church.
    And quit trying to tell me what I can say or write,dude.

    If you don't like it thats tough.
    I find it queer that you are so protective of the reprobate ones ?

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  9. Marcel and AF,

    I understand both of your points. I think that it is important for us to remember that the judgment of the Creator will come upon all men. No man will be able to stand…and those few who survive must be under His protection (Is. 26) because of obedience to His ways (Jer. 7, esp. vs. 23) with a humble and contrite spirit (Micah 6, Ps. 51). Of course, we are not saved by our works, but true salvation through grace brings obedience (Eph. 2:8-13, esp. vs. 10).

    This is the real root of the problem. From the beginning of time, the One True God (the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) has made Himself and His ways known. Man (including most of us today, “Christian” or otherwise) has continued to reject Him through disobedience. The “law” (torah) was known before it was written down through Moses. Abraham was obedient to it (Gen. 26:5). Cain and Abel knew to bring sacrifices without it being written down. Cain’s problem was with the condition of his heart, not with the sacrifice that was brought (grain and first fruit offerings are acceptable and required later in the written instruction of Leviticus).

    The problem with Cain is the same problem with man today…living in disobedience. The “church” has created a fake system of “salvation”. The god they serve is a torahless (lawless) “Jesus”, not the real torah-obedient, perfect servant who always pointed His disciples back to the Father and His ways. The real Jesus did not change one single command of the Father. He could not, or He was not the real Messiah (Deut. 18). The “church” at large thinks that they can say a little prayer and be done with it. No true life-change is required. This is why we are where we are.

    Judgment has come and more will come. All sinners will be judged: homosexual, adulterers, rapists, liars…all who are disobedient, who do not love the truth. The “church” is included, because most in it do not love the truth and turn from their wickedness.

    The Creator brings the calamity (Is. 45:5-7). Sometimes, His fire is from His Hand alone (Sodom and Gomorrah). Sometimes, he uses an “arsonist” (Jer. 52:12-13). But, the bottom line is that He brings it. He drove the Canaanite out of the land because of their wickedness, and he later drove His people out because of their wickedness. His right-ruling continues today because of our wickedness…”sinners” or the “un-saved” and those who think they are “saved”, but continue to live in disobedience. Those who are truly saved will return to Him and His ways, recognizing the falsehood of our fathers (Jer. 16:14-21, esp. vs. 19).

    Eric

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  10. I couldn't of said it better ,eric.

    The homosexual's used to hide their abomination and now they openly flaunt it and shove it in the face of the righteous,the pure innocent ,the children.
    This is a sign to any who know God's word that God's wrath is now and will be directed against the boastful perverted sodomites who openly shake their fists at God.
    He will respond to them.


    I agree with everything you wrote
    especially this.

    The “church” at large thinks that they can say a little prayer and be done with it. No true life-change is required. This is why we are where we are.

    Judgment has come and more will come. All sinners will be judged: homosexual, adulterers, rapists, liars…all who are disobedient, who do not love the truth. The “church” is included, because most in it do not love the truth and turn from their wickedness.

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