The major stumbling block which hinders and restrains Israel from defeating her sworn enemies under the guise of peace will be removed.
Monday, March 10, 2008
Israel Collapses to US Pressure, Pulls Troops Out of Gaza
The major stumbling block which hinders and restrains Israel from defeating her sworn enemies under the guise of peace will be removed.
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Marcel,
I have been reading your posts for sometime now. You have written some of the most profound thoughts and concerns about the signs of the times we are in. And I know that we are suppose to be alert and sober for the day of our Lord. And you share the things that you find or that the Lord may reveal to you. I dont want to assume anything thats not true of you but I know and believe that God reveals to His sons different parts of a whole picture. And the revelation of Christ is a wonderful thing to the believer but if you ask most people, it scares them or they dont know what to think of it. So do you ever write about the hope for the ones who endure or how to obtain that hope? I am just curious on your side of that since the rest of your writing strikes an interest to me.
thanks
Steve
Hi Steve ,
Thanks for your comments.
God's word is the only way to grow hope and enduring faith.
Reading God's word last week the message was 'your faith has made you well.
Not anyone's faith but our own and that only Jesus can give you.
Of the he Roman Centurion,Jesus said He had not seen such faith in all of Israel.
How is that for a slap to the chosen frozen called out people and nation.
The faith we have now will cause us to endure to the end or fall away. Sadly the majority of the Church will fall away because the leaven of lies led them to build their foundation on sand and the coming storms wil sweep them away.
The 10 virgins parable of Matthew 25 is not good news.
The door will be shut tight and it will be too late for many.
(Matt 25 ;12)
The truth lite Christians are already under a strong delusion sent by God to judge them and they assume the door will always be open.
That is another of the many false teaching that infest the Church today.
God told Jeremiah to stop praying for the people.
We in the US have been saturated with the gospel like no other coutry in history and the door is about shut on a heardened un repentant,ever growing more wicked people.
Jesus ,the same yesterday,today and forever shuts the door and hope is no more.
Thats the serious message people don't want to hear.
Thats why Joel Osteen church in Houston is filled to overflowing.
If Jesus is not our Rock today and we are not gather closer to Him we are in grave danger.
I focus on Israel and the Church, individual believers attitude ,relationship to Israel.
Israel is God's plumb line.
If a believer is indifferent or uncaring about what is happening related to Israel it tells me about their relationship to God.
Following religious men and not Jesus is fatal to our faith.
Believers who are deceived by corrupt political system and entangled in it are backslid and serving satan's kingdom.
Most of the Church is selfish,self focused and all too willing to sacrifice Israel to save US.
The narrow way is narrow indeed.
steve ,check out what Walter wrote at Israel's Covenant with Death.
It's futile to lead people to hope when they are not looking for it.
Too busy with other things like Jesus warned about in His Banquet message ,they were all too busy with other things to make it to the feast.
Whoever shall fall upon this stone shall be broken but on whoever it falls on ,it shall grind him to powder.
If we are not broken ,we never come to Jesus.
When He crushes us (judgment),it's too late.
steve patton said...
"......So do you ever write about the hope for the ones who endure or how to obtain that hope?......."
Steve,
As Marcel has said, read the word.
If you search God's word [i prefer the KJV], *as a seeker after him*, God will 'draw near' to you.
And his spirit will comfort you.
As i have said in another place.....
......To those that do study the Bible, its words will soon reveal it to be a living thing!
The contents, the stories, and the knowledge which the Bible contains, is somehow intrinsically joined with mankind.
If you can think of each individual human, as a kind of a 'lock', then think of the Bible as a kind of a master 'key'.
Place the 'key' in the 'lock', and turn it!
The Bible can speak *to the heart* of a man.......
Malachi 3:1
¶Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
Malachi 3:7
¶Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. *Return unto me*, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
Steve, time and time again [in OT verses], God exhorts his children [mankind] *to seek him*.
Our relationship with God [our spiritual father] is, and must be, personal.
And it is *we* who must seek after God.
From our side, it is our responsibility to seek our God [to demonstrate 'where our heart is'.].
We are intended to be Gods temple, if we are worthy.
Gods spirit resides in our hearts, when we are spiritually 'clean'.
We are not perfect, ....i am not perfect, i am a sinner, who has said 'sorry' to God.
And when we seek after God, we will find his righteousness, *and his mercy*.
Numbers 27:16
Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh....
John 4:24
God is a Spirit....
1 Corinthians 3:16
¶Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: *neither shall evil dwell with thee*.
Psalms 51:10
Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not *thy holy spirit* from me.
Acts 17:27
That they [mankind] should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, *though he be not far from every one of us*:
Jeremiah 9:24
But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for *in these things I delight*, saith the LORD.
Marcel,
Something that may be of interest here [on my site].....
....IS THERE SOMEONE IN YOUR HEART?...
To our God, the heart of man is holy [or more properly, man needs to understand that it should be!], because the heart is the intended residence of God's spirit within man.
Interestingly, in recent years, medical science has discovered that there is a small amount of neural material ['brain' cells], in our hearts.
Yes, these cells are made up of the same material which makes up our brains.....
http://members.dodo.com.au/~wtt626/abominationmakesdesolate.html#IS_THERE_SOMEONE_IN_YOUR_HEART
.....regards my earlier discussion about God's spirit, indwelling in our hearts.
I don't know if the idea expressed at my site, transgresses your beliefs?
Please have a read of what i have said there.
If this material does not 'gel' for you, i will not be offended if you choose not to post it.
blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled.
No hunger ,no fill.
The prodigal son had to come to his senses and return home.
It is only by God's intervention that we are drawn to repentence and salvation.
The nature of the heart is wicked and not good.There is no hope in man apart from God.
Those who look to man for answers and success,survival are lost and deceived by the lying serpent who seduced Eve in the beginning with the lie ,ye shall be as God .....
When God shines the light on our dark hearts we come to understand our repugnant nature and inability to change or save ourselves from our terminal condition.
Only then do we see our need for Messiah Jesus and the perfect atonement He provided for us at the cross.
We don't earn it or deserve it ,it is the gift of a loving and merciful God to us who only deserve everlasting darkness and gnashing of teeth because we by our nature do not seek after Him or obey Him apart from His intervention.we only rebel against Him and there is not one good ,not one.
Oh wretched man that I am.
No good thing dwells in our hearts apart from what God has given us by faith in Jesus who has broken down the wall of sin which divided us from Him.
The key is not in ourselves and no flesh shall stand before God apart from the blood atonement of Jesus.
Walter ,
I was reading in Acts where the Jews of Antioch succeeded in driving out Paul and Barnabas
after which they shook the dust from their feet against them and moved on to Iconium.Acts 13;51
There are some who will find true repentance but as a whole, mankind has heardened itself past repentance as we see in Revelation where 'men repented not' as God rains judgment upon judgment down upon the whole earth.
I couldn't get to the abominationmakesd page.
I did get to ~wt626 though on Islam.
I bookmarked your site and will get back to it after I go and fill up the truck with gas before the price goes up again,again.
Marcel,
Thank you for sharing these words. It is exactly how I feel. I came from the church knowing that what they teach is not the Truth and as Walter said:
"If you search God's word [i prefer the KJV], *as a seeker after him*, God will 'draw near' to you.
And his spirit will comfort you."
So many people do not search for God or seek him out. The church tells the people that they are fine the way they are and that there is no need for change. That is why most churches are as large as they are because they except people as they are without sharing the sober truth.
The first thing Jesus Christ and John the Baptist said was to repent (metanous in Greek) Change your mind. And people are told different now.
I have just been enlightened with the truth last July and haven't been able to put the Word of God down. I know that hope rests in it and so I was just wondering where you were on the subject. Thanks again for sharing.
Steve
John was speaking to God's people to repent.
It has to be a daily event from a heart of humility and fear of God.
Something lacking among the saints today is the fear of God.
Acts 11:34-
But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.
30 + years ago I heard a preacher say about the bible.
This book will keep you away from sin or sin wil keep you away from this book.
So true ,look how the saints are turned to fables and reading 'religious' fiction.
Every day we have to be in His word to be close enough to Him so that this present world is not inviting to us.
Without Jesus I can do nothing.
I've a long way to go to get empty and let Him fill me up so He can accomplish His work in me.
There is so much deception and snares to take us from staying close to Jesus.
THATS THE ONLY WAY WE WILL ENDURE TO THE END,and there ain't no early rapture.
'They loved not their lives to the end.'
'He that seeks to save his life shall lose it.'
Love not the world or the things of the world ,for if you love the world ,the love of the Father is not in you.
The Church today only preach half the truth leaving out the hard truth of God's word.
Just enough truth to hinder those who do not know the voice of the Chief Shepherd from entering the narrow gate.
The wide religious gate leads not to eternal life.
Marcel said,
"......The prodigal son had to come to his senses and return home.
It is only by God's intervention that we are drawn to repentence and salvation...."
The prodigal son is a good analogy Marcel, for today, for the redeemed saints.
With LORD Jesus being the steadfast, good, and devoted son [but without the complaining, expressed within the parable. :)) ]
And indeed in scripture Messiah Jesus is likened to, portrayed as the first born, of many [spiritual] sons of God.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God [redeemed].
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
1 John 4:4
¶Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
Galatians 4:1
¶Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Lamentations 3:31
For the Lord will not cast off for ever:
32 But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.
33 For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.
34 To crush under his feet *all the prisoners of the earth*,
Isaiah 8:16
¶Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
17 And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
18 Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
Isaiah 63:16
Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.
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Marcel said,
.....I couldn't get to the abominationmakesd page.
I'm not sure what the problem is Marcel?
I tried the link myself.
And i was able to download the particular page ok, [remotely] from my ISP.
Perhaps its a browser problem?
Not sure.
But if you can load my ~wt626 page ok, search on that page for the words....
the abomination that maketh desolate
.....there is another link to the abominationmakesd page there.
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Marcel said,
".....THATS THE ONLY WAY WE WILL ENDURE TO THE END,and there ain't no early rapture....."
I have the same belief here Marcel.
No pretrib rapture.
I believe that we will all experience the tribulation, with [and some without] Gods protection.
And then, we are changed and caught up to him, at Messiah Jesus return [whether we are dead or alive at that time].
In fact i believe that we are deep within the tribulation, *right now*.
And i believe that Jesus return is 'keyed' to events that are determined to occur, in the ME, involving an overwhelming attack on Israel.
Marcel,
One further scripture seems appropriate, concerning Israel, Jerusalem for today.
Let us all pray to our LORD....
Isaiah 62:6
¶I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
Walter,
Jesus talking to the Church in Revelation says 'I stand at the door and knock.
I don't believe He is welcome in the majority of Churches today.
The knock goes unanswered.
Walter ,thanks for the scripture.
I picked up a great poster at the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem with that scripture.
It's past time to find a frame and hang it !
The Ezekiel 38 war mentions all the nations which will come against Israel but leave's out Syria and Egypt.
It's because Israel will have neutralized both of them in this next war.
I believe at this same time the U.S. will be defeated,destroyed leaving Israel with only God to seek.
Marcel,
Above you said....
"....I focus on Israel and the Church, individual believers attitude ,relationship to Israel.
Israel is God's plumb line.
If a believer is indifferent or uncaring about what is happening related to Israel it tells me about their relationship to God....."
Its true.
I have an old friend [who is also a rabid atheist], he is someone i see perhaps twice a year, and he is someone i have communicated with, online, for years.
For some time i've been trying to bring him to the light.
And i have prayed for him.
But it is a cause, which i'm increasingly coming to believe, is now best left in the LORD's hands.
I still have contact with him, and we often discuss current news items involving ME politics.
Over many years we have had particularly 'animated' discussions [and remained cordial] about the situation between the 'Palestinians' and Israel.
He is anti-Israel, and pro 'Palestinian', and blindly [from my point of view], continually, portrays the 'Palestinians' as the 'hard done by' victims.
When i point to the ruthless 'Palestinian' violence, he claims their cause is justified, and he [genuinely] is sure, is certain, that peace would break, .....if only Israel would return, 100%, to the pre 1967 borders.
Ha! :((((
He is *totally blind* to the wickedness, and duplicity of the 'Palestinians' / ISLAM.
He just sees the 'Palestinians' as victims, and muslims as people who have, 'never done him any harm'. [Yikes!!!!]
I have never thought about these pro and anti-Israel discussions with this person, in terms of his atheism.
But after reading your words above, yes it is clear Marcel, Israel is 'a line in the sand', for all of us today.
Jeremiah 23:1
¶Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
Psalms 111:1
¶Praise ye the LORD. I will praise the LORD with my whole heart, in the assembly of the upright, and in the congregation.
2 The works of the LORD are great, sought out of all them that have pleasure therein.
3 His work is honourable and glorious: and his righteousness endureth for ever.
CORRECTION [below]..... 'is certain, that peace would break OUT'
Marcel,
Above you said....
"....I focus on Israel and the Church, individual believers attitude ,relationship to Israel.
Israel is God's plumb line.
If a believer is indifferent or uncaring about what is happening related to Israel it tells me about their relationship to God....."
Its true.
I have an old friend [who is also a rabid atheist], he is someone i see perhaps twice a year, and he is someone i have communicated with, online, for years.
For some time i've been trying to bring him to the light.
And i have prayed for him.
But it is a cause, which i'm increasingly coming to believe, is now best left in the LORD's hands.
I still have contact with him, and we often discuss current news items involving ME politics.
Over many years we have had particularly 'animated' discussions [and remained cordial] about the situation between the 'Palestinians' and Israel.
He is anti-Israel, and pro 'Palestinian', and blindly [from my point of view], continually, portrays the 'Palestinians' as the 'hard done by' victims.
When i point to the ruthless 'Palestinian' violence, he claims their cause is justified, and he [genuinely] is sure, is certain, that peace would break out, .....if only Israel would return, 100%, to the pre 1967 borders.
Ha! :((((
He is *totally blind* to the wickedness, and duplicity of the 'Palestinians' / ISLAM.
He just sees the 'Palestinians' as victims, and muslims as people who have, 'never done him any harm'. [Yikes!!!!]
I have never thought about these pro and anti-Israel discusns with this person, in terms of his atheism.
But after reading your words above, yes it is clear Marcel, Israel is 'a line in the sand', for all of us today.
Jeremiah 23:1
¶Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
Psalms 111:1
¶Praise ye the LORD. I will praise the LORD with my whole heart, in the assembly of the upright, and in the congregation.
2 The works of the LORD are great, sought out of all them that have pleasure therein.
3 His work is honourable and glorious: and his righteousness endureth for ever.
Walter ,I went to your web site and see you''ve done alot of work especially related to islam.
I got an opportunity to visit Joseph's tomb in Shechem thanks to Aaron Pik in the early 90's.
I still couldn't find the abomination/desolate page.
After reading about you and your friend Revelation 12 came to mind.
Show me someone rabidly against Israel and I'll show you the dragon.
I even found this with a prominent Christian who broadcasts daily over the radio/internet.
His rage and hate against Israel was exposed when the subject of the sinking of the USS Liberty was mentioned.
Ltes fac e it ,we're in a very small remnant,minority when it comes to Israel and the truth.
" And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man [child].
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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