Thursday, July 31, 2008

The right fear is very good indeed

"We fear men so much because we fear God so little. One fear cures another.
When man's terror scares you, turn your thoughts to the wrath of God." -
William Gurnall

Nehemiah 6
9 For they all were trying to make us afraid, saying, "Their hands will be weakened in the work, and it will not be done."
Now therefore, O God, strengthen my hands.
10 Afterward I came to the house of Shemaiah the son of Delaiah, the son of Mehetabel, who was a secret informer; and he said, "Let us meet together in the house of God, within the temple, and let us close the doors of the temple, for they are coming to kill you; indeed, at night they will come to kill you."
11 And I said, "Should such a man as I flee? And who is there such as I who would go into the temple to save his life? I will not go in!" 12 Then I perceived that God had not sent him at all, but that he pronounced this prophecy against me because Tobiah and Sanballat had hired him. 13 For this reason he was hired, that I should be afraid and act that way and sin, so that they might have cause for an evil report, that they might reproach me.
14 My God, remember Tobiah and Sanballat, according to these their works, and the prophetess Noadiah and the rest of the prophets who would have made me afraid.
The Wall Completed
15 So the wall was finished on the twenty-fifth day of Elul, in fifty-two days. 16 And it happened, when all our enemies heard of it, and all the nations around us saw these things, that they were very disheartened in their own eyes; for they perceived that this work was done by our God.


If your faith can't be tested, it can't be trusted."

"When filled with holy truth the mind rests." - C.H. Spurgeon

"Temptations, when we meet them at first, are as the lion that reared upon Samson; but if we overcome them, the next time we see them we shall find a nest of honey within them." -
John Bunyan

"The greatest wisdom on this earth is holiness." - W.S. Plumer

from Andrew Strom
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12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Marcel,

I would like to ask your council on a matter.

There is this certain "sister" in our locale that a brother and I have been sharing the truth with now for several years.

The situation is, that from time to time this "sister" betrays us to the local patriotic dominionist club that she still has ties to.

She says she believes the truth but she sticks around the club thinking she can wake the blind sheep out of their willful stupor.

She claims that she "has" to attend as her husband recently started attending after "repenting" of backsliding.

The thing is, I happen to think that this brother "repented" just to prove us wrong what we are saying about this place being Mystery Babylon.

Very tangled web so far yes?

Anyway, before her husband "repented", we were counciling her to cease fellowship with patriotic dominionists as they are lovers of the world and enemies of God as a result.

She kept "doing her own thing" deceived into thinking she could save those who don't really want to be saved because they hate the truth.

Several times during the past 3 years I have ceased fellowship and email contact with her over this betrayal.

Now, in the past several days, we find out that this "sister" is in "peace talks" with these haters of truth and she actually considers them brethren!

I have forgiven and forgotten this time and time again but it is getting too much for me to re-establish fellowship with someone I know to be a consistant betrayer.

My question is:

Should I refuse to fellowship with this "sister" until she repents and once and for all breaks fellowship with the apostate church?

Marcel said...

REJOICE !
Jesus warned we would have many betrayers in our midst.I was looking for Luke 6 which the Lord has led me to read yesterday and today and stumbled on this;

And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

LUKE 6
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you [from their company], and shall reproach [you], and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward [is] great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
Luk 6:24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
Luk 6:25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
Luk 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Luk 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
Luk 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the [one] cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not [to take thy] coat also.
Luk 6:30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask [them] not again.
Luk 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luk 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
Luk 6:33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
Luk 6:34 And if ye lend [to them] of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.
Luk 6:36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Luk 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


I've been dealing with a simlilar situation where a sister? who claimes to agree with what I've been saying like Nehemiah's
'Shemaiah the son of Delaiah, the son of Mehetabel, who was a secret informer'
but she has uncovered her pride and anger spoke a curse against me more than once but shows none of this to the forces of evil ,always a feigned love and shallow agreements with me.
I've been praying about it and the reality is that we will have clever adversaries rise up against us that we are to love and pray for but not necessairly entertain or tolerate.
I think it was Paul who ruined the business of the woman who correctly said 'These men are the men of the most high God who show us the way of salvation'
Something wasn't right and he cast a demon out of her and alot of people got mad.
I expect that ,we should also expect the devil to get mad when we are pleasing God and no pleasing or fearing men.
I don't know if any of this helped ,but the Lord wil give you His wisdom on the matter.

Anonymous said...

"secret informer"

That sure sounds like what has been going on...

"I've been praying about it and the reality is that we will have clever adversaries rise up against us that we are to love and pray for but not necessairly entertain or tolerate."

Amen

"I don't know if any of this helped ,but the Lord wil give you His wisdom on the matter."

Yes, it did help. Thanks

And I trust that The Lord will give me His wisdom on the matter.

Anonymous said...

We must all beware of this in the days to come:

Daniel 11:34 Now when they fall, they shall be aided with a little help; but many shall join with them by intrigue.

Also, read the context. Very powerful passage of scripture.

Anonymous said...

John 14:23.24 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.

I refuse to call ANYONE brethren who contradict and cast the Word of God behind their back at every turn.

Psalms 50:17 Seeing you hate instruction And cast My words behind you?

Ezekiel 23:35 "Therefore thus says the Lord God: 'Because you have forgotten Me and cast Me behind your back, Therefore you shall bear the penalty Of your lewdness and your harlotry.' "

These charlatains that this sister have been talking to have actually said that The Word of God is not The Word of God.

They also say that the Word of Almighty God is FULL of contradictions and errors and give the pulpit to whoever agrees with this heretical Gnostic dreck.

These people do not believe in the same God that I do.

They believe in another jesus, desire to receive another spirit and love Babylon with all their heart, soul, mind and strength.

Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother."

But how can they ever be a doer, if they won't even receive the true light?

They won't even hear or see the truth.

They think Benny Hinn, John Wimber, et al. are men of God.

Marcel said...

Thanks for the Daniel scripture.
Thats another very good reason to look to no man or ministry but to Jesus alone !

Discernment.
We gotta have it for these last days
Alot does not add up with some ,but
I keep in mind the patience of the Lord and His unfinished work in the lives of others.
I got to ask Him to show me and not rely on my own understanding.
We are called to judge them by their fruit.
If they keep getting on their knees and licking the dust off of a counterfeit peacemaker,blasphemer Bush's shoes and making pathetic excuses for his evil, then that tells me all I need to know.
They have another lord and it's not Jesus.

They actually think they can serve 2 masters and are unaware that it is Jesus who has sent the the strong delusion they are under.
They will do what the loyal German Christians did who served and honored Homeland Hitler and gave lip service to God.
They didn't fool God for a second and neither should they fool you or I.
" I never knew you "

They replace God and His word with the Hinn's ,dead wimbers, and make them lord as they have done with their god George who can do no wrong.

I heard a guy on talk radio call in and angrily demand that the man stop saying the truth about his Christian president George Bush.
The man on the radio stood up to the attempted censor of the truth and said ;
"so what ,Mussollini (the fascist hitler ally of Italy) was a 'christian'."

God is doing a seperating of sheep and goat for the final harvest.
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And they were filled with madness; and communed one with another what they might do to Jesus.
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Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets
Luke 6:26

Anonymous said...

The problem is, people think they can disregard scripture and go off on some mission to save haters of the truth when they judge themselves unworthy of everlasting life by the very fact that they hate the truth.

"....misguided attempt to rescue....."

Seems I've heard that somewhere before....

1 Timothy 6:3-5 3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

NOT, fellowship with them!

Withdraw yourself says the Word of God!

No amount of wanting that scripture to not be that scripture will change it.

No amount of ignoring that scripture will make it go away.

No amount of praying that God will excuse you from obeying His Word will excuse you from obeying His Word!

The scripture can't be broken, only those who fall on the rock can.

Lest we be ground to powder.

Anonymous said...

2 Corinthians 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

But why is it SO easy for people to be against the truth with a clear conscience in Babylon?

Perhaps their conscience is seared with a hot iron?

Anonymous said...

Wholesome Words, even the Words of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

Mark 9:40 "For he who is not against us is on our side.

Luke 11:23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.

Marcel said...

"God is good-so very, very good. His mercy endures forever. Amen. "

It's easy to sit at a computer and
write ,but I know without Jesus we can do nothing.
CLANGING SYMBOLS,NOISE.

We all need more love and humility in these perilious times starting with me.
The devourer is on the prowl and i don't want to be devouring the sheep ,but I do want to be exposing the wolves.Ephesians 5:11
The love of man will fail ,the love of God will triumph over everything.
I pray the Lord heals and unites what Satan attempts to divide and destroy.

Anonymous said...

Amen!

But be aware that these people that this sister is buddying up to have called the only brother in The Lord that I know in my area "demon possessed" and "gone"...

I cannot call these people fellow sheep or my brethren. Not unless they repent. If they can repent.

Marcel, they have caused so much destruction in the body here, false teaching, false prophecy, presiding over contless divorces and destruction of children in their "christian school".

Telling the poor and weaker brethren, "Sit here at my footstool.", etc...

I know of a total of 2 real believers in my area and a handful that want to believe the truth but don't because it just costs too much.

Anonymous said...

This saying is too hard, who can hear it.